what should i get a ps2 or a x-box

[Varian]

i just want to know witch ones better so i can make a decison

[spiderman_2k]

Oh boy....

[Fanible]

Search past posts if you want. The question is a pretty insane one on a multi-platform board.

Just choose the one you want.

Xbox has better specs, providing game companies if they wanted to can make their games look better than any other console game could deliver. Has best load times as well. Highlight exclusives include Halo, and soon Halo 2, as well as popular Knights of the Old Republic, as well a few racing sims. Note only Xbox exclusives really use Xbox's specs to it's limit, but when they do they usually have the best graphics on the market.

PS2 has the most games, having sold the most units so more game companies sign on knowing their games will sell. As of now it has the largest game library by far. Also is usually said to have the best control, for comfort and setup, but that doesn't really effect any or either system cause you can get controllers that are the same as one systems that work on another. Highlight exclusives include Grand Theft Auto 3 and GTA: Vice City, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid series, Final Fantasy series, Silent Hill 2 & 3, and Ace Combat 04. As well as a few racing sims.

It really comes down to you dude. Both systems offer something good for their value, and both are worth owning. Buy one or the other, and you'll be pleased with your purchase. It just depends on which one you pick.

[Balrog of Moria]

Dont forget X-Box's solid online setup

[Varian]

how mutch is it for online

[Onimar Synn]

I got an X-Box for the expansion and online capabilities. I don't play that many different games, so the variety didn't matter that much to me.

[Fanible]

Originally posted by Varian
how mutch is it for online

It's free, unless i've missed something. You just need an internet connection. Does it cost anything to connect your computer to the internet? It's basicly the same thing. Just instead of plugging your internet cable into your computer, you plug it into your console. The only thing it costs is your money to your internet server, and the online adaption.

And yes, Xbox is the leading online console. It's got good online games including Mechwarrior.

PS2 is trying, but is merly a blip on the radar. While it merely has the not released yet Final Fantasy XI Online, and the current SOCOM. However to make online more worth while you'll probably want the keyboard controller, which is only available for PS2. Unfortunatly it just doesn't have enough games at the moment.

Xbox is hopefully coming out a with a keyboard/mouse combo soon. For now, though, you can get the headset/microphone.

[PlayingGod]

Among many other great games coming out for the X-Box are Fable, Ninja Gaiden, Counter-Strike (Will probably dominate the Online play of most people .. god It's so addicting), True Fantasy Live Online , Starcraft: Ghost, Splinter Cell 2, Dead or Alive Online .. to name a few .. :)

[sphericthor]

Here's the best solution "JUST BUY BOTH"

[Varian]

if i had a enough money mayebe

[Marvin Nash]

PS2. It's cheaper in the long run. No $50 a year online fee. Plus the new one comes with a network adapter built in. Not to mention the fact that Microsoft is evil.

[Slipknot]

PS2 all the way

[sphericthor]

I have both, but neither of them are online

[Riddle]

They're both pretty darn cheap. So get one now, one later.

[Fanible]

There are more gamers online for the PS2 as well. As for the 60% online gamers use PC's. 8% PS2, and 4% Xbox.

[Hitman]

I have both but the only system I plan on bringing online is the XBOX. Oh and when Halo 2 comes out, with online play, I will oficially have no life. Well I don't have one now but if I did, Halo 2 would get rid of it.

[Sub_zero3]

Buy used ones it still works and there cheap

[freakyplatypus]

Mmmmm..... Halo 2.
I can't wait for this.
I bet they'll be yet another Halo game after this - It'll be milked for all its worth. I wouldn't mind having a taste of the milk. I want some milk, dammit.

[jediknight]

Originally posted by Marvin Nash
PS2. It's cheaper in the long run. No $50 a year online fee. Plus the new one comes with a network adapter built in. Not to mention the fact that Microsoft is evil.

The ones that come with the adapter bundle is 30 more expensive than xbox that has always had the adapter built in. With sony, you pay a fee for each game you play...if you play ffxi and everquest, your going to pay a double fee. For xbox, you pay 50 for a year. Which ends up being about $4 a month, much cheaper than one game on sony's platform. Plus you GET the headset automatically when you buy xbox's online system and you can look up all your buddys so you can play them when they come online! Xbox also has downloadable content so in the future, we can get more costumes on Kotor(roxers). Oh and did i mention if you want to play FFXI you have to pay 80 more dollars for a harddrive on top of your network adapter? If an online game ever comes out where it's necessary to have the harddrive, microsoft has got you covered and you can save your 80 bucks for a new game and have change left over!1 Save your money, get an xbox, you'll thank me later :D

[Marvin Nash]

No, wrong. With the PS2 not all games require a fee. The best online games, SOCOM, Madden NFL 2004, NHL 2004, Gran Tourismo 4 (not out yet), are all free after the initial purchase, not to mention that they are all PS2 exclusive. Also, all of EA's Sports titles are PS2 Online exclusive and have USB headset support. In regards to FFXI, not everyone is interested in this game. You don't have to buy it if you don't want to, but at least PS2 owners have the option. Btw, it will also be available for PC. I have no interest in it anyway, so I'm not concerned. There are other reasons too. MGS3, and MGS2 Substance with the skating mode are PS2 exclusives. In the end you're better off with PS2. I'm not saying XBox is bad, only that PS2 is better... and that Microsoft is evil.

[freakyplatypus]

I love my XBox

[jediknight]

PS2=slow loading times and jagged graphics. If you take a game that's head to head (ign does these on multi released games sometimes) xbox will win...everytime! An analogy for you Microsoft is to Sony as Sony was to Nintendo 5 years ago.

Your right, not all games require a subscription fee. Correct me if I'm wrong though, if you're online...is it possible to know if your friend is online without being in the same game? If it is possible, do you have to reboot the system and connect all over again to switch games? I know with xbox you know when your friends are online and all you have to do is switch games. No reconnects and no rebooting. Thats worth 4 bucks a month to me.

It's true that sony gets some exclusive games like Metal Gear. But they all eventually get released for other platforms. Metal Gear solid for ps1 is being redone and released for Gamecube. MEtal gear 2 was redone and released again on ps2 and xbox. Yeah, you get Solid Snake with a skateboard, but who really wants that? :hehe: Grand Turismo is truly a superior racing game and I'll give you that.

Xbox has exclusives too though. Indeed, Xbox has some of the best games out on a console now--KOTOR and Halo come to mind. More exclusives are coming out though like Starcraft: Ghost & Fable.

I didn't like Sony when it came into the console market and wrestled the crown away from nintendo, but it grew on me. I didn't like Microsoft when it came into the console market but it grew on me too. Xbox is the superior platform, quality over quantity I always say. :D

[jediknight]

A few other features worth noting are the fast save times (if you are saving to the hard drive). No multitap to buy here to play four players, already built in like nintendo and dreamcast. You can also play custom soundtracks on certain games, a feature that was cool on X2: Wolverines Revenge.

[Fanible]

I wouldn't bother trying. There's no even or reason in Jedi's arguments. He's just a Xbox fanboy, in result I just scan his posts now as nothing he says is very solid. Its pretty obvious when everything he says about Xbox is positive, everything about every other system is negative. "Xbox will win everytime!"... lol, ok.

And yes, Xbox has exclusives, and some good games. But so does PS2, and a lot more of em. Considering PS2 is said to have a much larger and better gaming library, and usually the preferred control and controller, reading your high praise Xbox posts is stupid. When someones trying to decide what to buy, you'd be one of the worst people to go to due to your fan dedication to the X.

I have all three systems, but im not about to jump on the bandwagon with one or the other. I play both evenly, and both has it's goods and bads. One offers one thing, one offers another, one has it's worth and as well so does the other. Hearing someone just boast outright about one of the systems alone is just retarded to my eyes.

P.S.
Oh, and Starcraft Ghost is coming out on all systems.

[jediknight]

Starcraft Ghost is rumored to debut on Xbox because it's the only system that the game has been shown on. This rumor is somewhere on IGN's pages. If it comes out on other systems, it's speculated that it will be some time until it comes out on the other systems.

I'll admit that my defending the xbox makes me sound like a fanboy. Head on over to the Brotherhood of Gaming and you'll see me defending sony's next portable. I do realize the benefits of the PS2, otherwise, I would have traded the hardware a long time ago. You do get exclusive games with the PS2 like GTA and GT4 (though its been rumored that GTA is coming to xbox w/o the GTA tag name because of Rockstar's contract with sony.) PS2 also has the best controller for a platform...ever. Gamecube's controller is small but fun once you get used to it. Xbox's controller is my main gripe, it is clunky and the buttons are hard to push (the same can be said even with the upgrade), but I like the breakaway cable. I don't play sports titles, but I hear that some sports titles (like madden or sumpin) is only Online for PS2. So like you say there are benefits to every console and there are downfalls. To answer the question first posted on this thread, it really depends on what you're looking for, Varian. If you have a friend that has both consoles, try them out. I've listed all the bonuses that Xbox has above and others have listed all the bonuses that PS2 has (including a better number of games to choose from.) PS2 also has a killer number of Greatest Hits titles compared to Xbox, so if your looking for budget titles, PS2 is an easy sale. Also PS2 is backwards comp. with PS1 games, feature has come in handy for me because it's like I have 2 ps1's in my house. My wife can play FFVIII and I can play Symphony of the Night. When asking the question of which console to buy it all depends on personal taste of the person you're asking. Personally, I don't play GTA so the only exclusive I'm interested in is Grand Turismo...all the other exclusives will eventually come out on the other platforms (for example Metal Gear). The X has more pro's than the PS2 for me.

But, there are problems with the xbox...big problems. I would like to point out my major gripe with Xbox. The system locks up...a lot! While playing KOTOR, it would lock up and I'd tried to save, but it would corrupt my save. (argh!) It also locked up alot during x2 and a couple of times during halo if I didn't make sure the disk was pristine clean. As opposed to you Fanbile, I don't play all the systems evenly. 1.)Gamecube 2)Xbox 3)PS2. If i'm a fanboy of anything, its Nintendo :) .

[Riddle]

You can play Halo online. Just not through Xbox Live.

[adt100]

I really, seriously cannot understand that even at this stage in its life, the PS2 is still the best selling console. It's just proves how powerful a brand name + mass marketting can be.

Anyway, I've never liked MS, but you've got to admit their console is w/o doubt the best on the market. The console specs, the DVD player, the online capabilities, everything. It just lacks the number of games the PS2 has, but then I always say quality over quantity.

Personally though I have a Gamecube which I am more than happy with, because the type of games that are perhaps less common on the GC I can instead buy for the PC (which is usually superior in every aspect if you've got a decent spec). You can't beat Nintendo's innovation and exclusive titles though. :)

[adt100]

Originally posted by jediknight
PS2=slow loading times and jagged graphics. If you take a game that's head to head (ign does these on multi released games sometimes) xbox will win...everytime! An analogy for you Microsoft is to Sony as Sony was to Nintendo 5 years ago.


I don't quite get this analogy - can you expand on what you mean here?

[Riddle]

OK. Let's get things straight.

Gamecube is the best console on the market. They have more good games then any other system. Sure, most of the games you can get one other consoles, but chances are that the best version is on the Gamecube.

Xbox is the most powerful console. This isn't always a good thing. I find that most games on Xbox are concentrating more on graphics then on gameplay. And the controller sucks.

PS2 is the weakest system of the 3. Though they have more "adult oriented" games then any other system.

[spiderman_2k]

The whole "good game" thing is ur opinion, not everyone likes those games... So it isnt straight

[Riddle]

No, I'm talking in general.....Technically speaking, I don't play 90% of the games that come out, good or bad.

I'm just going on every bit of information that I read.

[adt100]

I think I'd tend to agree with Riddle, although re-word it slightly. The GC has the greatest percentage of good to poor games compared to PS2 and X-box, which also have a huge amount of trash. Nintendo has always been a company known for its innovation and great games development.

Despite the likes of the Resident Evil franchise though, they still have far less of what are considered the 'adult' or 'cool' games that give the X-box and PS2 wider appeal. Like I say, if I want that kind of game I get the PC version, but Sony and MS simply have nothing like Zelda, Mario, and other such games. For me therefore there was only 1 choice.

[spiderman_2k]

It has alot less "trash" games then PS2 because PS2 have a LOT more games released thus the percentage of great games is expected to be smaller...

[Fanible]

A little late, but any rumors that StarCraft Ghost is only debuting on Xbox are wrong. Blizzard is, and has been, making the title for all systems. Don't believe some rumors on a gaming site when the company themselves have said they're doing it, and still are. And what the heck would be the point? The only way that would of worked is if for some reason Microsoft managed to pay Blizzard enough money to sign a contract, making Blizzard an Xbox exclusive company. Thats how it works. Otherwise Blizzard would just release the game on ALL platforms, making a LOT more money. And as neither Blizzard, nor Microsoft have announced that Blizzard is Xbox exclusive, they still are coming out with the game on all systems.

Not to mention chances are Blizzard probably wouldn't sell out anyways, as they're more a people person company, making it a goal to satisify all customers. Meaning they wouldn't make it so people had to buy a system grant they don't have it.

Current release date, for all systems, is February 11th, 2004.

P.S.
I can't find any of the rumors anyway, unless its on a message board or something, in which I do not look.

[jediknight]

if you read EGM, check the rumors section.

[Fanible]

Figures it'd be in EGM. Damn monkeys. But thus why it's in the rumors section. Random people send them, or they get it off their message boards.

[jediknight]

ADT, to expand on my meaning nintendo underestimated the Playstation when it came out. Sony was working on a cd drive for them (for the then unreleased N64) and at the last minute, Nintendo backed out of the deal. The action made sony mad causing them to create the playstation, a more innovative system than anything out at the time. While Sony isn't underestimating the power of X (by making the psx), X is the leading innovater at the present time. To keep fuss on the DL, I mean to say that their console is more innovative, not necessarily the games.

For the doubter of the Adult Link out there, I deliver a quote directly from the mouth of Miyamoto in the pages of EGM #170.

EGM: The next Gamecube "Zelda"...
SM..."will not have a realistic Link. At least, not the next one..."

[Optimus Magnus]

In my opinion, the X-Box has proved how stupid it is because those trusty penguin boys at Linux have hacked it.

You can't hack a PS2, this only re-enforces one crucial fact that a person should remember when comparing X-Box and PS2

The X-Box is essentially a Pentium 3 in a black plastic box: the internal specs are as follows:

GeForce 4 MX440 equivilent graphics card

128MB SD-Ram 133

DVD Rom drive

10GB HDD

Pentium 3 733Mz CPU

And since these are all computer componants, we must remember that they are then subject to all faults of a PC, especially with this on-line nonsence, because some smart arse will come up with a virus to attack the X-Box

A PS2 on the other hand is not strictly a pc, but a smaller version of an arcade game unit, and since (to my knowledge) it has no internal hard drive because all memory is on the Memory Cards, it's safe from a virus that is likey to be made for online consoles

And above all, PS2 is strictly a "Game and Movie Buff's" console, it plays DVD's out of the box (and even then the software is packaged) and requires nothing other than a power point and a TV to operate

X-Box needs a special playback kit for DVD's and it is outragously expensive (yet another trait is shares with computers, expensive peripherals) and it's controller is about as comfortable as sex on a bed of nails. And most of the games you can get on X-Box can be gotten on PS2 and some of the X-Box games are coming to PC anyway

The loading times are a moot point, it depends on the demands the game puts on the machine. DBZ Budokai versus mode on PS2 takes ages to load, but the Tournament mode is almost instantainous and Tekken 4, which sports some of the best Fighting Game grpahics I've seen out of PS2 is a quick loader


So we can rant all we want, but when it comes down to crunch time, it's still "Varian's" choice

Back to you slick

[Kris Hodgson]

We could debate all day, but what it comes down to in the end is the games, right? That's the whole point of these systems. And X-Box just cannot match the PS2 when it comes to better games. Before you diehard X-Box fans start whining, I know Halo is a supreme game. I know KOTOR is a supreme game, but I'm not talking about a few select titles. I'm talking about the entire game line, and X-Box just doesn't compare. Plus you can play your old Playstation games on the PS2.

[JAE]

I hear that, but the XBOX is going to have some more amazing games on it soon, like Fable and BC. I would rather have a handful of excellent games to play rather than dozens of "decent" titles.

[jediknight]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
We could debate all day, but what it comes down to in the end is the games, right? That's the whole point of these systems. And X-Box just cannot match the PS2 when it comes to better games. Before you diehard X-Box fans start whining, I know Halo is a supreme game. I know KOTOR is a supreme game, but I'm not talking about a few select titles. I'm talking about the entire game line, and X-Box just doesn't compare. Plus you can play your old Playstation games on the PS2.

Yes, but whats exclusive to PS2 thats great right now? GTA series and the Gran Turismo series. SOCOM sounds good, I've never played it, so I don't know.

[spiderman_2k]

MGS3 will rule all on the PS2...

[jediknight]

Tru Dat, Spidey. Best use of PS2's engine yet.

Ninja Gaiden will rule on XBOX too though.

[tedward]

I like the look of project gotham 2 on x-box.

[Adzmullz1]

Originally posted by Riddle
OK. Let's get things straight.

Gamecube is the best console on the market....

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !! :applaud: , oh god, NOW THAT.....Is funny!.
Trust me friend , if you want the most powerful console on the market with QUALITY games like KOTOR and Halo 2, buy an xbox. If you want Dreamcast standard graphics and good games that unfortunatley get boring quickly (i'm looking at you vice city) then get a ps2.
If you want to waste you money and buy "the best console on the market" (btw , BWAHAHAHAH! :D ) then get yourself a Gamecube (Btw, DON'T !) :rolleyes: .

Hope that helped...............:confused:

[jediknight]

Gamecube has more exclusive games worth buying than xbox does. Gamecube may not be the most powerful console, but the graphics are comparable to xbox's.

[Adzmullz1]

Ok, maybe i was a tiny bit Harsh. True, GameCube does have some quality games (resident evil, that mario one) but for that guy to call it the 'best console on the market'......that was funny, you've got to admit!.

GameCube = ok/good

PS2 = "yesterdays" console

Xbox = Best console availible.

[Optimus Magnus]

Dude, PS2 owns them without fail.

Its gonna have the two new Transformers games and they've ported Sonic to the PS2

And before all you Halo bleaters start, its come to PC and will soon become more associated with PC's than the X-Box

PS2 reigns supreme, I know 3 people who own a PS2 for every 1 who owns an X-Box

[spiderman_2k]

I now have both so i have the best of both worlds

[JAE]

Pissed about the transformers thing, but Sonic is also being ported over to XBOX, with much better graphics....as usual. All XBOX ports get beefed up....beefed up is good.

(I feel bad for all the PS2 owners who will never get to play KOTOR....:()

[spiderman_2k]

I just got KOTOR with my new X-Box...its pretty sweet so far

[jediknight]

PS2 has sheer numbers in both games and owners, but there is no way you can say the hardware owns them.

[PlayingGod]

One Reason to get a X-Box ..



http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/194300/halo2.gif

[JAE]

I agree, but Fable and BC are going to be reasons 3 and 4 behind KOTOR at number 2.

[Boone]

Which console is best for Madden 2004?

[jediknight]

PS2 can play it online, right? I know Xbox can't.