Spike (James Marsters) joining Angel cast?

[Klimber]

I recently heard news about James Marsters who played Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer is joining the cast of Angel. Uh I know that is the TV universe in which certain characters have been brought back from Hell, but last I looked Spike was cooked like a Christmas turkey at the climax of the Buffy series final show. Now I am not an expert in the Thermal Dynamics of Vampires but if a vampire is consumed in a fireball that cratered the entire city of Sunnydale should this be a final death?? What are your thoughts?

[ambrosia]

Death doesn't really matter much in the Buffy universe anymore and I don't really care for Angel at all. Not since the whole Jasmine affair whose entire story arc was just one giant mess and the season finalie was utter tripe. :rolleyes:

Nevertheless, as for Spike being dead, just throw in a witch, some spells and some angst then, Sunnydale fireball or not, you'll have yourself a revamped Spike in no time. (Pun intended)

[Alien]

My thoughts are Darla came back.

[Steve125]

It's true. Spike will come back but he is going to be a ghost. You can see him, but he can still pass through walls and stuff, and I heard that he taunts Angel relentlessly, I don't remember all of it, I read it at aintitcoolnews

[spiderman_2k]

Cool...though i thought he was going to come back as a human...that whole prophecy with Angel living, Spike did everything that the prophecy needed...Like Having a soul...stopping an apocalypse...

[PsychoMike]

One of the rumors I heard was that they would use the prophsey of Shansu(sp?) from the first season of Angel, amd Spike would be human I have also heard that Harmony might be back for a few episodes, and they are looking for a new aFemale lead, since Cordy won't be on much this season

I'm sorry if I hav repeated anything any one else has said but I didn't read the spoiler spaces.

[Alien]

Originally posted by PsychoMike
I have also heard that Harmony might be back for a few episodes, and they are looking for a new a Female lead, since Cordy won't be on much this seasonThat was on the CS! news only a few days ago. They got the new a Female lead.

It was news on CS! and so I'll wait and see if I get completes to put spoiler tags.

Sarah Thompson (Boston Public) has come on board to star in The WB's Angel as the series prepares for the start of its fifth season. She is set to appear in at least six episodes of the WB drama playing Eve, the new assistant to Angel at Wolfram & Hart.

The casting comes in the wake of the departures of Charisma Carpenter and Vincent Kartheiser as series regulars. James Marsters, who played Spike on Buffy the Vampire Slayer, had already been set to join Angel.

Executive producer Jeffrey Bell tells Variety Thompson's character "will be an anomaly at Wolfram & Hart in that she seems like a normal and well-adjusted young lady."

"She seems sort of too normal," Bell said, adding Thompson's character "may or may not be a love interest for Angel. The goal is to have her be a consistent force in our characters' lives."

The entire dynamic of the show will shift this season as the series moves away from its creepy hotel setting and into a more workplace-focused atmosphere at the evil law firm of Wolfram & Hart.

"Visually the show's going to look very different than it has before," Bell adds. "And we're trying to tell stories that are much more stand-alone and yet still resonate in the same way (with loyal fans)."

In addition to Marsters and Thompson, Bell said Mercedes McNab, who has made guest appearances on both "Buffy" and Angel, will also be a recurring player this season.

"She has a history with Spike, and she brings a great sense of humour to the show," he said.

Bell is also hoping to attract several "Buffy" alums to make appearances this season, assuming the proper plotlines can be constructed.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by PsychoMike
I'm sorry if I have repeated anything any one else has said but I didn't read the spoiler spaces.

Yeah thats the thing i said in the post above yours...

[IceGambit]

I think James on Angel is going to completely ruin the show. Has anyone seen the poster for ANgel Season 5.

It has a heavy Spike emphasis, to say the least. In order the get more viewers, the show will shift its focus to Spike, which I don't think is fair to fans who have been with Angel for a long time.

I like Spike, but I want him to stay dead and gone.

[spiderman_2k]

http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_a0aa080ff4616ca3dab091ceb1893dc3/i-1.JPG

These things are going for around $20 on E-Bay when they were giving them out for free at comic-con...

[George Bushs 18th cousin]

Originally posted by IceGambit
I think James on Angel is going to completely ruin the show. Has anyone seen the poster for ANgel Season 5.

It has a heavy Spike emphasis, to say the least. In order the get more viewers, the show will shift its focus to Spike, which I don't think is fair to fans who have been with Angel for a long time.

I like Spike, but I want him to stay dead and gone.

I dunno, the scrappy gang as I call them seems unified now. Connor and Wes gave them some strife, but they seem on good terms now...might be fun to have someone to shake things up.

[Alien]

Originally posted by George Bushs 18th cousin
I dunno, the scrappy gang as I call them seems unified now. Connor and Wes gave them some strife, but they seem on good terms now...might be fun to have someone to shake things up. You do know Connor's gone. I liked him, ok he was always grumbling about something but I just like the super-human male salyer type character.

[spiderman_2k]

He gave the show a really creepy factor..always slinking about trying to kill his dad...

[Alien]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
He gave the show a really creepy factor..always slinking about trying to kill his dad... Yeah, and now he's gone.

[spiderman_2k]

Well...i wont particually miss him....though i did miss the series finale...:(
I've had to gather what happened by reading up online...

[que_SuertE777]

I miss him. He and Fred are (well, were) my favorite characters. *sniffle* I'm happy that he has a family to care for him now, but I'm kinda sad that he couldn't work things out with Angel, but if everything was that happy-go-lucky, it would've been boring. Conflict holds people's attention.

[EnderDeschain]

Originally posted by IceGambit
I think James on Angel is going to completely ruin the show. Has anyone seen the poster for ANgel Season 5.

It has a heavy Spike emphasis, to say the least. In order the get more viewers, the show will shift its focus to Spike, which I don't think is fair to fans who have been with Angel for a long time.

I like Spike, but I want him to stay dead and gone.

I disagree. I like the way Spike went out, and when I first heard about him going to Angel I felt almost the opposite way you did in that I figured they're probably going to ruin Spike. I never gave two sh**s about Angel's show, I watched the first season and then just stuck with Buffy (except the cross-overs in season 2 of Angel). I'm not bashing the show, I'm just saying it didn't get me the way Buffy got me the night I sat down and watched the first episode lo those, what, seven years ago? After Angel and Riley both left and Spike became more or less the male lead and the primary love interest for Buffy, although a sort of unorthodox one, I really liked what they did with his character. There were times during season six when I questioned the show's handling of him, but with the finale and then season seven my doubts were quelled. Anyhoo, I'm just saying Spike has a fan-base too, and that's what the folks at Angel are trying to do (obviously). Angel hasn't really been killing at the ratings lately, and putting all that focus on Spike can only help in that regard. Any real Angel fans who, as you say, have been with him from the start, will continue to watch no matter what, and yeah maybe Spike will hog the spotlight for a minute or two, but we all know whose show it is. I'm sure Angelus won't be demoted to supporting character status or anything.

But dang, I ramble. Basically what I'm saying is Spike = good. That's just my opinion. And that's one cool-ass poster.

[Boods]

spike rules ... i dont know if his coming to the angel show is good or not ... i like the way he died and all ... i hope its not too stupid or basic the way he comes back ... angel is still gonna be the main man but spike will probably get more people watching the show ...

[angelusrp]

I didnt get to see the last season of Buffy.. so i dont know how spike died.. but sense I entered here.. i pretty know the basics. I also heard that the prophecy from the 1st season of Angel was going to apply to Spike. and I think him coming to the Angel cast wil be great. With buffy over. how can you get rid of a brilliant character like Spike.. theres still so much you can do with his character. So im looking forward to seeing this next season.. when does it start anyway?

[angelusrp]

Conner isnt coming back. Cordelia isnt either.. im gonna miss her.. i liked her.. and the low blouses she wore. :-)

[IceGambit]

Originally posted by EnderDeschain
I disagree. I like the way Spike went out, and when I first heard about him going to Angel I felt almost the opposite way you did in that I figured they're probably going to ruin Spike.

But do you think it is fair to the viewers of Angel who don't want Spike to take over the show. Look at the bloody poster, he already has taken over the show.

Judging by your avi, there is no arguing with you, but I want Angel to be just like Season four. It was excellent. And Spike coming in is shifting the show towards all him and stand-alone episodes (which are rubbish).

I think that poster is a crime. Of course, the viewers who just want to lust over James Marsters will be catered to next season. The rest of us, the real Angel fans, are left with our favorite show ruined.

[PsychoMike]

It's basicly like this if there was no spike there would be no more Angel. The only reason WB picked up Angel for a 5th (and probobly 6th season, ME seems to do 2 season arcs) was because the could get Spike. Because of this they, of course, would promote Spike the most. The posters are designed by WB not ME (as well as TV ads) so they get to promote whatever they want in their posters.

[spiderman_2k]

Originally posted by IceGambit
I think that poster is a crime. Of course, the viewers who just want to lust over James Marsters will be catered to next season. The rest of us, the real Angel fans, are left with our favorite show ruined.

I am a "Real" Angel fan..I have only missed 1 episode..ever....I think brining Spike in is a great idea, U are assuming he will take over the show...Its still called Angel, therefore Angel is still the main man...

[yeahyeahyeah73]

I'm not going to miss Connor he was the only annoying character in a great cast. I won't miss Cordelia either, loved her at first but she's slipped the last couple of years. Spike's awesome. He won't take over the show, but WB had to do something to get the ratings up. IMO Angel has been better than Buffy the last couple of years, and that's a strong compliment, since I haven't missed an episode of either, ever. Also IMO, Wes is the best character on Angel. The dude can act. I'm looking forward to this season.

[spiderman_2k]

Wes is great...since the whole bad thing..he has really become a great character..

[EnderDeschain]

Originally posted by IceGambit
I think that poster is a crime. Of course, the viewers who just want to lust over James Marsters will be catered to next season. The rest of us, the real Angel fans, are left with our favorite show ruined.

You're making a pretty big assumption there in thinking that just because Spike's coming in, the show's automatically ruined. Have a little faith in the creative team, I'm sure they're aware of the concerns of people like you, and me too, and will do their best to cater to both. I know there were times I questioned the Buffy team, and in the end they always came through. Maybe your guys will too.

[JackSparrowsGrl]

I think that angel will be better now that spike is coming to the show, he is awesome.

[Klimber]

I think Spike is a good addition to the cast and will give strenth to ratings, but if the writers can conjure up any one they want back from the dead (including the hot evil Wolfram & Hart lawyer chick LaLa) why cant they bring back Doyle- the demon who Cordi got the ability to see visions. Man every time that fool sneezed and all those blue spike popped up all over his body...I just laughed and laughed

[spiderman_2k]

I think the actor who played Doyle has died...:(

[Klimber]

Uh this would make it somewhat more difficult,then would it not. OOPS!

[Alien]

Originally posted by Klimber
I think Spike is a good addition to the cast and will give strenth to ratings, but if the writers can conjure up any one they want back from the dead (including the hot evil Wolfram & Hart lawyer chick LaLa) why cant they bring back Doyle- the demon who Cordi got the ability to see visions. Man every time that fool sneezed and all those blue spike popped up all over his body...I just laughed and laughed Doyle was great, I never understood why they killed him. It was like Angel, old Irish guy who doesn’t have an Irish accent, and Doyle, young Irish guy who does have the accent. The only thing is I don’t think Doyle would fit into the new rougher tougher Angel world, true I would have thought the same about Faith’s watcher but Wes has really came on.

[spiderman_2k]

Like i said im pretty sure the actor has died so he cant fit into it anyway.....

Wes has really become great since he has turned darker....

[PsychoMike]

Originally posted by Alien
Doyle was great, I never understood why they killed him. It was like Angel, old Irish guy who doesn’t have an Irish accent, and Doyle, young Irish guy who does have the accent. The only thing is I don’t think Doyle would fit into the new rougher tougher Angel world, true I would have thought the same about Faith’s watcher but Wes has really came on.

From what I heard the actor who played Doyle wasn't getting along with the Producers and crew (not sure about the cast).

According to the producers Doyle was only ment to be a short term character.

[vinay10]

he hasnt take then focus.. all the posters for the new Angel season are like that go HERE (http://www.geocities.com/van_fannelx/angels5.html) and you will see what I mean. I think its awesome that hes joining the cast.

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by spiderman_2k
I think the actor who played Doyle has died...:(

Yeah, he died just over a year ago I think

[sphericthor]

Originally posted by Alien
Doyle was great, I never understood why they killed him. It was like Angel, old Irish guy who doesn’t have an Irish accent, and Doyle, young Irish guy who does have the accent.

Accents explained

When you leave a country for a certain period of time you tend to pick up the language of the people around you.

Angel left the emerald isle hundreds of years ago and lost his accent through time. Doyle on the other hand, we don't know when he left Ireland he could've left the day before he showed up on Angel.

[Purgatori]

Spike is not the sole reason that the show was saved just an added factor. The main reason was the money. They had to cut down the budget. Hence the firing of Charisma Carpenter and the departure of the character. The WB needs the ratings and they wanted the budget cut. That was the main reason. Having Spike was an added factor for the show money wise also. More viewers equals more ratings. That is what it all boils down to money.

Personally I do not mind I have already read the spoilers and sides for the first five episodes and Spike is not all that mai focused. also sorry I do no know how to use that spoiler thing

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Spike is not getting Angel's shanshu. From what I have seen. The reason he is a ghost comes from the amulet that he had used as well as Wolfram and Hart.

Also I would not want him to get it. The shanshu was made for Angel since season 1 and I think it should rightfully stay with him. Having Angel have it would be a damn kick in the face. Anyway my favorite character is Angel. I have been watching Angel and Buffy since the beggining and have always favorred Angel to Buffy. More of a mature adult show to me. I am not liking the executives at the WB. They are rearranging the show. So in consequence we are going to have light show and standalone episodes which really sucks.

Also the actor that played Doyle died of a drug overdoese. *sigh* loved him as Mark on Roseanne.

[Klimber]

I do not have a problem with Spike joining the cast, I was an Angel fan for the first seasons but lost intrest around the whole return of Darla birth of Connor era. If they use a popular Buffy to reel people like me back into the fold, I say go for it. Hell it could been freakin Zander that they wanted to join. I never did under stand why that tool made it through the entire series of Buffy. I mean if this was Star Trek ole Zander would have been the Red uniformed crew member on the away mission with Kirk, Spock and Bones. You know what I am saying... Uh where was I, Oh yeah, Spike equals extra Buffy fans watching the show.

[lotrfreak]

icegambit, i am a real angel fan, i have never missed an episode of either buffy or angel, and i think its crap what you said about spike ruining angel and saying that all the 'real angel fans' will be left with the show ruined. I adore angel, and think that with spike coming on, it can only get better, so next time, keep your mouth shut i dont like people dissing spike

[Klimber]

As far as all the hoopla with Spike joining the cast, I think the premier was a let down.

[Alien]

Spike's a girl right? I never saw it since it's not been on yet but that just sounds weird.

[spiderman_2k]

:confused:

[Alien]

I got the trailer sent to my e-mail and it said something about seeing James Masters in a dress.

[Klimber]

Uh no Spike is a Vampire. You know one of the pointy teeth guys with allergy to sunlight. I never saw a dress...?

[Alien]

I knw Spikes a Vamp but what was it about talking about when it said see James Masters in a dress?

[AnGeL's_BaBe03]

They must do it

[jasonafcbills]

angel was born in 1753 not sure of the date and mouth,but ge dose not look one day over 40.
so that means he'll be 250 this year.

[jasonafcbills]

he will be in a dress read my post from the any angle fans out there to see what i mean sorry for double post

[Alien]

Originally posted by jasonafcbills
he will be in a dress read my post from the any angle fans out there to see what i mean sorry for double post +i will just say this is a rumor from my loc papper,if i had a scanner i will post it.they say that willow will be on the 12-14 eps and that she will try to cast a spell to free spike from hell but something go's wrong and they become 2. they talk a about a very funny screen where spike is like im free and gets a smoke out of his pocket.and trys to light it up,but willow is grabing his hand with her hand and trying to stop him. It also saids that the plot will pick up after the 10th eps.they want to give a back round check on all the new cast members.It doesn't say anything about his dress. :evil:

[mistaste]

When Angel first started i loved watching it but over time the TV people just screwed around with the times it was put on so when ive finished getting me Buffy box sets im just gonna buy the Angel DVD box sets, although i don't have a clue how much they are :confused: anyone?