View Full Version : Soul Calibur 2!!
Hitman
07-28-2003, 03:07 PM
The reviews are in (EGM # 170) and SC 2 is a must- have for all sytems. It's "Game Of The Month" and I can't wait to pick it up. Is anyone else getting this game? I hear it's the best fighting game EVER. :applaud:
Varian
07-28-2003, 03:44 PM
it is because i've played the japenese verson and i reserveed my own copy as soon as i could.
specail charaters for each system too
gamecube verson=link
x_box verson=spawn
ps2 verson=heihachi
ceci-chan
07-28-2003, 03:48 PM
ps2 version = Heihachi Mishima (from the Tekken series)
Hitman
07-28-2003, 04:25 PM
I'm getting the XBOX version. The only complaint I hear is the X's controller is too big so the S controller is preferred.
spiderman_2k
07-28-2003, 04:27 PM
Heihachi uses his Wrist Guards to block..it looks really cool when he does it...
ceci-chan
07-28-2003, 04:39 PM
What sucks about it though is that he doesn't use a weapon. It would of been cooler if he used a weapon or he had a weapon concealed somewhere.
spiderman_2k
07-28-2003, 04:49 PM
Its better without one...Its closer to the Heihachi we know...
ceci-chan
07-28-2003, 05:19 PM
True. But it is Soul Calibur. Let the ring outs begin! :)
Alien
07-28-2003, 05:20 PM
I'm getting the Cube version just coz I wanna fight as Link from Zelda.
By the way with version gets Spawn?
spiderman_2k
07-28-2003, 05:37 PM
X-Box.
Link fights with a Bow & Arrow right??
Alien
07-28-2003, 05:53 PM
Link fights with the Master Sword he uses his Bow & Arrow as a special move.
spiderman_2k
07-28-2003, 06:05 PM
Oooohh sounds cool...
Varian
07-28-2003, 07:11 PM
Originally posted by spiderman_2k
X-Box.
Link fights with a Bow & Arrow right??
link as all of his weopons i've played the japenese verson
Hitman
07-30-2003, 12:06 PM
Well you were lucky to play the game so soon. It's not being released in the U.S. until 8/26. What a jip. It's always the best games that take a century to be released.
Varian
07-30-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Hitman
Well you were lucky to play the game so soon. It's not being released in the U.S. until 8/26. What a jip. It's always the best games that take a century to be released.
true i played it at the gamestop close to my house it was pretty new.it was the only place that had the japenese verson of the game in minesota that i know of
Balrog of Moria
07-30-2003, 04:20 PM
This things only been delayed for a year and a half
Alien
07-31-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by Hitman
Well you were lucky to play the game so soon. It's not being released in the U.S. until 8/26. What a jip. It's always the best games that take a century to be released. Stop your complaining it will be longer yet till it comes out in the UK. Like all games, good and bad.
Balrog of Moria
07-31-2003, 09:23 PM
Does anyone know if the X-Box version allows you to use your custom soundtracks
Hitman
08-01-2003, 12:07 AM
Don't even hold your breath Barlog. Name one fighting game that supports the XBOX's custom soundtrack feature........I know it's sad.
Balrog of Moria
08-01-2003, 12:19 AM
Its such a great feature...Why is it not utilized to its full potential
OK so does any other PS2 owners think we got SCREWED as far as special character goes. If I wanted to play as ****ing Heihachi, we have the Tekken series.
Fanible
08-01-2003, 01:58 AM
Yes, the PS2 got screwed over. But it was mainly from who got offered and allowed. I mean, even if they were going to use a Tekken character, there were a number I'd rather have. But they put in specials from each system, and since I guess Tekken is such a big fighting game from the PS and PS2, they used the main badguy, even though he seems like nothing special at all. Spawn would be way cooler, but yeah they're dumb.
Why not give the PS2 version Raziel from Soul Reaver, or Dante from Devil May Cry, or something. There's quite a few characters that would of been much more to my liking.
jediknight
08-01-2003, 10:44 AM
If Dante or Raziel was the character on the PS2 version, I would be all over that! Plus I love the PS2's controller, it's the best controller on any platform--ever! As it is now, because of the sucky extra character and the long as hell load times--i'll skim over the PS2 version and go straight to the Cube version. I love all things Legend of Zelda (though I could have gone for adult link in wind waker, but hey, miyamato says game after next, we may get him.)
Xbox's S controller is a bit better than cubes and supports HDTV, so I dunno...I think I'll still go with Cube's Link anyways...the controller is not much different if you are willing to fight with the analog stick. Anyway's I'm ranting, I can't wait for the game to come out, hopefully, they will do something better with the PS2 version next time. Until then, my PS2's collecting dust until Castlevania: Lament of Innocence.
Fanible
08-01-2003, 02:36 PM
Reportedly this is how each game functions:
The Gamecube's controls are quite good, with very quick response times, which I guess is a suprise for some people. It's looks are just or near as sharp.
PS2 has the best controls for the game. With best setup and response. The graphics, or atleast the special character is the most polished of the three.
Xbox has the worst controls, and the least response. The graphics for the Xbox are the best, however the other two are close enough that you probably wouldn't notice unless you put two screens side by side. Xbox also has the best load times, very quick.
But anyways, besides the not so good controls for Xbox, the game overall is extremely sweet on all systems. Wasn't the complete game that some were expecting, but it still a top fighter, and one of the best, if not the best current to date. Atleast it has the old goodies we remember.
The only other game that puts up good competition, or simply being on the same level would be Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution.
Alien
08-02-2003, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by jediknight
Xbox's S controller is a bit better than cubesYou're joking right! The Xbox has the worst controller of them all it’s way too big and clunky.
Hitman
08-02-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Alien
You're joking right! The Xbox has the worst controller of them all it’s way too big and clunky.
The XBOX's S controller is a whole different controller all together Alien. It's a more smaller and comfortable sized version of the XBOX controller. As long as you use this controller with Soul Calibur 2, you're good. It also doesn't share a slower "response" like the original.
Balrog of Moria
08-02-2003, 11:44 AM
The S-Controllor is IMO the best ive ever played with
Fanible
08-02-2003, 06:28 PM
Whatever suits you I guess. If you only have an xbox you might think that as well.
But what I posted yesterday or the day before, is what a majority of all game review sites and mags, if not ALL of them will say about it. Currently, Xbox has the worst control for the game. I can't say it's the worst for every game, but it is for this one.
Personally though, I've found that Xbox's controllers are the worst button wise, and the least comfortable. The S controller made it a bit better, but only made it the choice for the Xbox, but not the best overall. I'll sometimes use a PS2 designed controller in my Xbox depending on the game sometimes for this reason.
I might say it's as good as the Cube's controller though, or maybe a bit better. Guess I agree on that. It seemed to me that Cube's controller was a big copy off, resembling the Xbox controller a lot, but had PS2 similarities. Just made it more reasonably sized for your hands. Xbox kinda saw that and thus the S controller came about.
But again, Xbox's control is the worst for Soul Calibur 2, even the S. I don't know any gamers that don't use the S-controller now.
Hitman
08-02-2003, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by Fanible
Whatever suits you I guess. If you only have an xbox you might think that as well.
But what I posted yesterday or the day before, is what a majority of all game review sites and mags, if not ALL of them will say about it. Currently, Xbox has the worst control for the game. I can't say it's the worst for every game, but it is for this one.
But again, Xbox's control is the worst for Soul Calibur 2, even the S. I don't know any gamers that don't use the S-controller now.
No I have to disagree. After doing a great bit of research on SC 2, I found the XBOX version is, in fact, the best when compared to the PS2 and Gamecube versions. Apparently the PS2 version has the worst graphics of the bunch with choppy slowdown. XBOX and Gamecube are neck to neck in the graphics department while the XBOX version supports HDTV for higher resolution. I mostly hear the Gamecube's controller IS the least comfortable when playing SC 2. You constantly have to pound on the same buttons with the GC's akwaryd controller and the diminutive D- pad only makes it harder. Most prefer the XBOX's S controller when playing SC 2 because of the fast response and the comfortable button layout. If you are indeed only referring to the XBOX's original controller as the worst control for SC 2, I agree 100 %. But if you want to include the S controller too, I can't agree becuase it's definitely not true.
Balrog of Moria
08-02-2003, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Fanible
Whatever suits you I guess. If you only have an xbox you might think that as well.
I have all 3...Its just ive found my gaming bliss mostly with the x-box as my ps2 and gamecube collect dust...ive played all the best games for each syster and just prefer x box on every front.
Not to get preachy or n e thing :D
Fanible
08-03-2003, 01:45 AM
I don't know where you're getting your information Hitman, especially about the graphics, because read reviews almost anywhere, and you'll be able to read that the graphics between the PS2 and Xbox are near no different.
UGO:
"Unless our eyes and ears deceive us, the only noticeable difference is the controller"
And while it's obvious the Xbox will have the best graphics, the difference is not so great that you're gonna whimper. CGN: "the graphical difference isn’t game breaking and is eventually unnoticeable after time". NTSC: "The Xbox is also the slight graphical superior of the other two home versions, although the difference is somewhat negligible".
While perhaps the S-Controller might be better in other game situations, its not the case with Soul Calibur 2, relying on just 3 main buttons. Rather than multi combos, it's a strategic step for a fighting game, where you just need to know your opponents and your own character. This has come to a point even with the Gamecube controller, that even though worse than the other systems, it is still quite solid.
CGN: "Xbox version has the best graphics, the Game Cube version has the best exclusive character (Link) and the PS2 version has the best control".... which ironicly is what I first said about the games overall.
Every reviewer that has tried all three systems that ive read has said the exact above. The game was well designed on all systems, but I just find myself repeating myself, because fanboys of Xbox who havn't even played the game are saying, "no way, xbox control is the best!"
Wether that applies to anything else is irrelevent, and the matter of fact is that PS2 for SC2 is currently the best control wise. While the Xbox takes the graphics (even though, again, ironicly the difference is barily noticible). In fact, though, the control design for the Xbox has even rearranged the spots for where kicks, guards and punches normally go, making it even less than what some people are use to, another reason why it's getting a lower rating review for control.
GMR: "The control in the GameCube version is suprisingly good, with buttons intuitively arranged and response time razor sharp. Gamecube owners do get the coolest exclusive character, Link.
Wether you're using analog or digital controls, the PS2 offers the best controls for kicking butt, however the graphics are the least polished.
The Xbox controller, thanks to ultrasiff and gummi bear-buttons, is the least responsive controller to play SC2 with. Spawn is a suprisingly quick character though. The graphics are the best of the three versions, though not by much."
Kikzo Games: "Of the three formats the Xbox proves to be the most visually pleasing, but not by much. In fact it's a big shock how good the PS2 version looks next to the other, later released consoles. The Sony version just looks a tiny bit rougher in the resolution stakes, but makes up for it with the best pad"
Honestly, I could care less either way. I play both systems about the same amount, and somehow I find that it's not going to really kill me on choosing one or the other. Chances are my friend and I will get copies of both. All im doing is showing what the majority of reviewers of multi-platforms have been saying.
Balrog of Moria
08-03-2003, 11:49 AM
PS2
Controller: The PS2's controller works rather well, with a responsive D pad and well placed buttons.
Graphics: This version has the WORST graphics of the bunch with choppy slowdown when the sparks start flying.
What Else: The load times on PS2 arnet to hot
X-Box
Controller: You will hate the game on the original controller. Those awkwardly placed buttons just dont work here. But the newer controller S is great. Some of us still prefer the PS2 controller.
Graphics: The Best. This version supports the highest resolution for HDTV and kicks slowdown to the curb.
What else: The load times are MUCH faster than on the PS2.
GameCube
Controller: Unless you really like pounding on one button more than the others the gamecube controller is the least comfortable. The D-Pad makes things worse.
Graphics: Better than PS2's, with no slowdown, but it doesnt get as crispy sharp as XBox's in high resolution
What Else: Load times are much faster than on PS2
There you have it...I took that directly from EGM...My most trusted gaming mag
Fanible
08-03-2003, 11:57 AM
Thank you for that well written review from a fanboy base of Xbox editors and has been known to be well funded from Microsoft. Not that the funding has anything to do with it, but the fact that even the designers are mainly Xbox fanboys. You can tell this just from meeting them at any normal convention. Also note how they just made it clear that PS2 was the WORST of the bunch for graphics, not noting whatsoever that the difference in graphics is very slim, as every other multi-platform reviewers have pointed out. But funny though, how even they said even some of them still prefer the PS2 controller... hm, yeah, which was actually the basis of the beginning of the conversation that just that PS2 has the best control.
Anyways, like I said, im talking about the majority of reviewers. I have read their review already on the game, and somehow I knew you were going to bring it up, even though it basicly stated just as well that the PS2 has better control. EGM... yes. Sister magazine, many good reviews, and a stand out from others, which is why im subscribed to them. But im not basing my research on a single company, especially since I do know a lot about them.
And you know somethin? I might end up enjoying the Xbox version more, you never know. But im stating facts from the MAJORITY of reviewers as of now. I try to stay clear from being a fanboy of anything.... so I don't rest on simple and quite often singular facts.
Balrog of Moria
08-03-2003, 12:30 PM
Is your arguement that the PS2 can do what the X-Box can graphicly?
And as for controller its pointless to argue because everyone likes something diffrent
Fanible
08-03-2003, 12:34 PM
My argument is actually, the reviewers arguments anyways.
But, no, I have never said the PS2 can do what the Xbox can do. It just happens to be that the graphics, which the designers of this game made, the difference isn't that great. Not that great at all.
Sure everyone likes something different, but thats where the fan of something comes in, which like ive stated I steer clear of.
I like both the S-controller and the PS2 controller. However the average reviewer has stated the PS2 controller has the best control, basicly even some of EGM. Therefor, I, myself, will probably enjoy using the PS2 controller better, be it on the Xbox or the PS2. It's not that hard to sit down at each game with each controller button setup and determine which one is easiest and least complicated/annoying to use.
poopsydude
08-03-2003, 02:01 PM
ive tried the game and it kicks ass and yes im talkin about soul calibur 2
Well I think Barlog got his ass handed to him as far as intelligent arguing goes....hehe Fanible even whipped out quotes and everything.
Dante is a fantastic idea for the PS2 special character, I would consider him more bad-ass than Link or Spawn, until that crap sequel anyways....oh and the PS2 does have the best controller, and "response" time is up to the developers of the game, not the system's fault, so I really wouldn't use that as supporting evidence of why your excuse to sit on your ass is better than others.
roboxeno
08-04-2003, 11:25 PM
i am soo gettignt he Xbox verson casue i fites me
Balrog of Moria
08-05-2003, 12:13 AM
finally a true believer
jediknight
08-05-2003, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Alien
You're joking right! The Xbox has the worst controller of them all it’s way too big and clunky.
Not the S controller. The original is worse than cube's...but I haven't played all 3. This was reported in the latest EGM.
Alien
08-05-2003, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by jediknight
The original is worse than cube's.You say that like it's a shock. I think the cube has the best controller. I never like the PS X, O, Triangle and square thing and the Xbox controller is just bad. I've never seen the S controller let along used it.
jediknight
08-06-2003, 11:35 AM
I gust read in gmr that cube's controller is great. I'll keep my preorder on it, but mainly because of Link lol
Varian
08-08-2003, 08:04 AM
it has the best controles i was wasting everybody with link.
Fanible
08-08-2003, 08:20 AM
The Cube's controller is good, it's just not as good as the others. The game on many accounts is good on any system. All you have to do is own one of the three, and you'll probably enjoy the game just as much as any other person. They made it a point to design it well for each and every system, as to not need one or the other. It increases their sales greatly.
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