The LATEROSE reaction tread!

[D-fence]

I don't know if Laterose is willing to do this, but seeing that she somehow knows what will happen in the last two books (sort of) I thought it would be nice to create an entire Thread just to talk about this 'formula' that Rowling is using!

Because it's no fun just putting everything out on the table, it might be fun for the rest of us to continue guessing which way the story will go, and for Laterose to tell us if we're on the right track!
Off course, Laterose: if you don't like this idea, consider this tread non-existing. But maybe it's something some of us fans want to be a part of! Seeing that we can't know 100% sure what the next books will contain, it's still just a couple of fans trying to guess.. although now with some part of us believing that we could for once be RIGHT! :)

So again: Laterose, if you don't want to do it, lets just forget this post. But maybe it could be fun for the fans willing to read things that MIGHT be big spoilers for the last two Potter books!


Let the guessing begin!! :)

[Martinnyg]

What? Does Laterose know what's going to happen in the upcoming books ?

[hpk37067]

Supposedly she figured it out by the formula that JKR uses and now knows the end of book 7.

[D-fence]

That's right! But so far Laterose hasn't told us yet if she's willing to do this.. So lets just wait and see what she's got to say about this!

[hpk37067]

Where is she?

[D-fence]

Originally posted by hpk37067
Where is she?

My god.. Rowlings people finally caught up with her! :(

[Laterose]

I'm here. I'll be willing to do this.

[Martinnyg]

Sounds great. I have a couple of questions then :)

Will Percy apologize to his family ? If yes will they forgive him.

Is there going to be many more deaths?

Will Lupin die?

These questions are of course just for starters, I got plenty more.

[D-fence]

Originally posted by Martinnyg
Sounds great. I have a couple of questions then :)

Will Percy apologize to his family ? If yes will they forgive him.

Is there going to be many more deaths?

Will Lupin die?

These questions are of course just for starters, I got plenty more.

I don't think it's fun to just ASK the questions and for Laterose to answer them..
My original idea was for us to write down some things we THINK will happen, and WHY we think the story will go that way. Then Laterose can tell us if we're on the right track! That way the story might unfold before our eyes, guess after guess.. MUCH MORE FUN IMO! :)

[hpk37067]

Like a guessing game? Come on, that could take forever and people will ask stupid questions like will Harry kill Hermoine?

[Laterose]

I think people are smart enough to know what to ask and what not to ask. Please state theroies only, because I'm not going to answer questions.

[Kris Hodgson]

There's no formula, and even if there was, J.K. wouldn't have made it so predictable that you would be able to figure it out with 2 more books needing to come out.

[Laterose]

Really? All writers use formulas, even myself. If a formula is really predictable, I can watch about thirty minutes of a movie and tell you the ending, even when I've never seen the film before. Some writers don't intentionally use them, like JK, but they are always present, especially in fantasy stories, which I myself write.

[hpk37067]

Okay, here's a start. Harry duels Voldemort in the end and Dumbledore dies trying to save Harry.

[Kris Hodgson]

Originally posted by Laterose
Really? All writers use formulas, even myself. If a formula is really predictable, I can watch about thirty minutes of a movie and tell you the ending, even when I've never seen the film before. Some writers don't intentionally use them, like JK, but they are always present, especially in fantasy stories, which I myself write.

Okay, post what you think will happen or PM it to me, and in 5 years or so, we'll know if you were right!

[Martinnyg]

Ok :( I'll use theories next time. Hmm trying to think of one. Don't have any good ones at the moment. :( Hope some of you others have any good ones. :)

[hpk37067]

She's not going to do that. We've already asked.

[Kris Hodgson]

If she can't back it up, maybe she doesn't know anything. I could say I know the ending to Episode 3, but I don't want to spoil it, so I won't tell you. Doesn't necessarily make it so.

[Martinnyg]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
If she can't back it up, maybe she doesn't know anything. I could say I know the ending to Episode 3, but I don't want to spoil it, so I won't tell you. Doesn't necessarily make it so.

I know the ending to Episode 3. Anakin turns evil :D

[hpk37067]

Well, the ending to EPISODE III is kinda obvious though.

[Kris Hodgson]

Goddammit, you know what I mean!

[hpk37067]

Yeah, I do. But that's beside the point. What I know and what she knows are totally different.

[Kris Hodgson]

It just sounds like she's looking for attension, with no proof to back it up. The books aren't even written yet, so she doesn't KNOW what will happen. End of story.

[hpk37067]

But she is right though. Almost every story type thing, whether a movie or book or whatever, follows a certain formula up to a certain degree. Usually everything is just a variation to get to the same point. It's like in a race, two paths you can take but both will get you to the finish line.

[spiderman_2k]

The point is there is no truth to what she says unless she shows some proof to one person at least.

[Laterose]

I'll post what one of my theories are. If you rather not know, don't quote this post:
Kris Hodgson, you are a very smart person and I admire how you don't take what I say for granted. Nice quality.

Anyway, the story:
JK has been using many different patterns in her stories, but she seems to have been using those to cover up her main formula aka "The Ultimate Fantasy Story."

very important things that do not seem important now are going to have a huge factor in the later tales:
1) As everyone says, Harry looks exactly like his Dad, except for his eyes. This is extremely important because his green eyes are hints that he is extremely powerful, or will be one day. This difference from his father also means that he will see the world differently from his Dad.
2) Harry opens a package from Sirius, with a note saying roughly, "Use this whenever you need to talk to me." This mirror doesn't work, but the first thing Harry sees as he opens the package is a reflection of himself. Clearly this means that at one point or another, Harry will realize that Sirius lives on in him.
3) Harry is having strange dreams, one showing him the way to Voldemort. Oddly enough, Ron is the one who keeps interrupting them. This may mean that Ron will try to stop Harry from fighting Voldemort to his death

That's all I will say for now. Hope that's enough

[hpk37067]

She might know, she might not know. I'm a really don't believe it until I see it kinda guy except for religion. But she could just be making a fairly methodical guess for the end of the book using other movies and books as bases. Perhaps we know but we just don't want to take the effort to find out.

[hpk37067]

Wow. That's freaky. I never noticed all that stuff. You might be right on.

[Laterose]

I'm using my knowledge, my imagination and alot of books and movies that I know JK has seen sometime or another. I may be wrong, but I think I'm atleast on the right trail.

[Kris Hodgson]

Laterose - Thanks, that's all I wanted. Very interesting, and intelligent. I think you are definetly onto something, but like I said before, since the books have not even been written yet, J.K. could very easily throw us a curveball.

[Kris Hodgson]

Has there been any indication at all when we might expect book 6? I know it is too early to know a date, but is it a year, two years? Anyone know?

[Laterose]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
Laterose - Thanks, that's all I wanted. Very interesting, and intelligent. I think you are definetly onto something, but like I said before, since the books have not even been written yet, J.K. could very easily throw us a curveball.
I've been working on this for awhile and believe me, she has thrown a few curveballs, but I've been pretty much on track

[eclipsedman]

Laterose are you able to post this formula that you say JK is using?

[Martinnyg]

Originally posted by Kris Hodgson
Has there been any indication at all when we might expect book 6? I know it is too early to know a date, but is it a year, two years? Anyone know?

I would guess 2 years, because that's the time it took for OOTP to come. Because she took a whole year off after finishing GOF it took 3 years to come. But the writing and printing took 2 years. So that's what I guess this one will take as well.

[Laterose]

no, not really. She using a lot of different formulas and I'm still working some of it out. I've got the basics, but it's still likely she'll throw a curveball.

[Mobycat]

Originally posted by Laterose
Really? All writers use formulas, even myself. If a formula is really predictable, I can watch about thirty minutes of a movie and tell you the ending, even when I've never seen the film before

Ever seen Murder By Death?

[hpk37067]

Hey Laterose, how right were you about OOTP?

[Laterose]

I predicted that Neville's birth was somehow related to Harry's. I predicted Ron would be the new Keeper/Prefect. I predicted Sirius was one of the two people likely to die. The other one was Dumbledore. I was also, I think, right about the chain reaction this death will set off, noting Harry's reaction.

[hpk37067]

Good job. I thought it would be Dumbledore from the beginning just because it would make the battle for survival a bit more difficult.

[Laterose]

I knew it had to be someone who Harry was likely to avenge, and it had to be someone the series could do without.

[D-fence]

Originally posted by Laterose
I knew it had to be someone who Harry was likely to avenge, and it had to be someone the series could do without.

I don't think the series could do without Dumbledore. Not YET: Book 6 is the perfect book for him to die. That way, the last book (7) will have the greatest feeling of dread. It will make Harry's last steps towards 'the end' (whatever the outcome may be) all the more exciting! My prediction is that Dumbledore dies at the end of six, or early in book 7, with the rest of the book dealing with NOTHING standing between Voldemort and his big fight with the only one that can kill him.

Two years without Albus Dumbledore would have been too much IMO.

[Fable]

poor albus.. everyone thinks he's the next one to die,, how do you think this makes him feel??

[Laterose]

who knows

[Martinnyg]

Originally posted by Fable
poor albus.. everyone thinks he's the next one to die,, how do you think this makes him feel??

I guess he would be looking forward to his next great adventure ;)

[sone]

Maybe you should ask Harry Potter......he is supposed to either meet death at Voldemort's hands or kill Voldemort off once and for all.

But it is nice to know that at least someone thinks Harry will be a very powerful wizard.

[hpk37067]

Originally posted by D-fence
I don't think the series could do without Dumbledore. Not YET: Book 6 is the perfect book for him to die. That way, the last book (7) will have the greatest feeling of dread. It will make Harry's last steps towards 'the end' (whatever the outcome may be) all the more exciting! My prediction is that Dumbledore dies at the end of six, or early in book 7, with the rest of the book dealing with NOTHING standing between Voldemort and his big fight with the only one that can kill him.

Two years without Albus Dumbledore would have been too much IMO.

Most books are like that, especially movies. They bring in the villian, give the heroes a feeling of conquest, then somethin terrible happens that causes the heroes to lose all confidence. Then they come and defeat the villian. That's probably how it is going to turn out.

[Laterose]

coughstarwarscough ;)

[hpk37067]

Exactly. Like all Disney movies too, like TOY STORY.

[Kerry from Cali]

Originally posted by Mobycat
Ever seen Murder By Death?

Oh man, this was a seriously funny movie! I loved David Niven and Maggie Smith (McGonagall) playing Dick and Dora Charles, (ala Nick and Nora Charles in The Thin Man series) They were fabulous. It really had a stellar cast. Peter Sellers was brilliant, and I *loved* Truman Capote playing the madman (him yelling from inside the moosehead, "say your G-- Damn prepositions." And the climax scene, when each detective came forward, and gave their version of what happened. Talk about a formula! What a hoot! ;)



Kerry =)

[Laterose]

Originally posted by hpk37067
Exactly. Like all Disney movies too, like TOY STORY. Toy Story isn't a good example, but that is true

[hpk37067]

It kinda is. Everyone gets really happy about Buzz, then he realizes he's just a toy, then he gets in danger, then Woody rescues him, then everyone's happy. Happy, sad, happy.

[Laterose]

Not really. If Buzz died near the end of the movie, I don't think Woody would avenge him. The Lion King is a better example

[HeadHunter]

are people compareing the works of JKR with.....D.I.S.N.E.Y of all things???

[Laterose]

yes, this is a little off the wall.....

[HeadHunter]

a LITTLE.....

[Laterose]

just be glad evilsquishy isn't running this conversation

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by Laterose
I predicted that Neville's birth was somehow related to Harry's. I predicted Ron would be the new Keeper/Prefect. I predicted Sirius was one of the two people likely to die. The other one was Dumbledore. I was also, I think, right about the chain reaction this death will set off, noting Harry's reaction.

you are infact JKR sister...or her Muse...hehe...you know to much

[Laterose]

I'm just an extremely good guesser ;)

[LOTRfan]

you sound like my mom. She knows the ending to every movie after about a half-hour into it. And she even figured out most of POA before she was half-way through (that sirius was actually on the good side and was somehow closely connected to harry, that lupin was probably a werewolf, and that either scabbers or crookshanks was really a wizard in disguise) You know too much...hehe.
Lately with HP books it seems that I get so annoyed with Harry cuz the reader seems to know more than him. With the other books I was always surprised because I knew what Harry knew. In the 5th book though, it was really obvious that "the vision" was a trap. Did anybody else find theirselves getting soo frustrated with Harry? Maybe it was just cuz I was expecting Sirius to die soon so I knew something would go wrong. So when I read that scene I was like o so now he's gonna try to rescue harry who's trying to rescue him and one of them is going to die in the process (i wonder which one);) I just hope book 6 throws me totally off and i don't want to read any spoilers (mess up the whole reading-and-discovering experience.

[Laterose]

when you say I'm like your mom, is that a compliment? ;)

[D-fence]

Originally posted by Laterose
when you say I'm like your mom, is that a compliment? ;)

well.. I've seen his mom, and aaaaaaaaah.... no comment!

:p

[Laterose]

:p ;)

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
you sound like my mom. She knows the ending to every movie after about a half-hour into it. And she even figured out most of POA before she was half-way through (that sirius was actually on the good side and was somehow closely connected to harry, that lupin was probably a werewolf, and that either scabbers or crookshanks was really a wizard in disguise) You know too much...hehe.
Lately with HP books it seems that I get so annoyed with Harry cuz the reader seems to know more than him. With the other books I was always surprised because I knew what Harry knew. In the 5th book though, it was really obvious that "the vision" was a trap. Did anybody else find theirselves getting soo frustrated with Harry? Maybe it was just cuz I was expecting Sirius to die soon so I knew something would go wrong. So when I read that scene I was like o so now he's gonna try to rescue harry who's trying to rescue him and one of them is going to die in the process (i wonder which one);) I just hope book 6 throws me totally off and i don't want to read any spoilers (mess up the whole reading-and-discovering experience.

i didnt guess anything from the book....but unlike you i didnt read ANY spoilers before reading the book and stayed away from here while i was reading it. I didnt guess that it was a trap...i did know that he would end up there at the end of the book tho

[hpk37067]

Neither did I. I couldn't guess that Harry would be a kind of ''One". All I knew was that it would involve some dangerous Ministry teacher and the Order of the Phoenix. In fact, I don't even know why the book is called Order of the Phoenix, they were at a minimum in the book. I should be called Harry Potter and the Department of Mysteries.

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by hpk37067
Neither did I. I couldn't guess that Harry would be a kind of ''One". All I knew was that it would involve some dangerous Ministry teacher and the Order of the Phoenix. In fact, I don't even know why the book is called Order of the Phoenix, they were at a minimum in the book. I should be called Harry Potter and the Department of Mysteries.

they werent really at the minimum since he spent most ofthe summer with them and christmas and they always seemed to be refering to them....all the members too

[hpk37067]

But most of the book was at Hogwarts and all they did was repeat stuff that happened or stuff that was fairly obvious. Department of Mysteries sounds good though.

[Laterose]

exactly, the book is actually well named

[hpk37067]

I don't understand. If you don't want to reveal anything, then it is a good title. If you want to have the readers guess until the book comes out, it is a bad title.

[Laterose]

not revealing anything and letting the readers guess are pretty much the same thing. Don't reveal anything and they will guess.

[hpk37067]

But give them a little info and it will keep them guessing into new areas.

[HeadHunter]

yeah but if we are haveing a go at book titles...The Goblet of Fire actually anly assesed the Goblet for about a chapter...so ....

[Laterose]

I'm sorry, I can't read that, HeadHunter, can you edit your post, please?

[hpk37067]

That's true. Some spoiler sites did say that the book was going to be called HARRY POTTER AND THE TRIWIZARD TOURNAMENT.

[Laterose]

actually, she once put in a magazine that it was going to be called the Doomspell tournament or something like that

[hpk37067]

Really? Then she might've changed the name of the tournament to triwizard.

[Laterose]

yeah, it was in Disney Adventures ;) I was reading it to my little brother

[hpk37067]

Oh yeah, I remember the cover.

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by HeadHunter
yeah but if we are haveing a go at book titles...The Goblet of Fire actually anly assesed the Goblet for about a chapter...so ....

what i meant Laterose that you cant have a go at OoP book title saying that it does have much of the order with out saying that why was the GoF book called that when the Goblet was in One chapter of that book or so

[LOTRfan]

hey laterose: could the "formula" possibly be connected to LOTR?? I was just finished rereading the third book and the part about Pettigrew "being in debt" to Harry stuck with me. For those of you who haven't read LOTR and want to know (major spoiler)- Frodo has mercy on Gollum and lets him live and Gollum ends up being the one who destroys the ring by acccident. So he had a MAJOR part to play as Gandalf (dumbledore) predicted. Another character Pettigrew can be compared to is Wormtongue. Wormtongue is Saruman's most faithful servant who Gandalf and Frodo insist should be left alone. Because he is allowed to live he ends up turning on and killing his master. he is then in turn killed by the hobbits. So is it possible that Pettigrew could kill Voldemort or harm him in some way? And as a result die himself? Or would that not be possible because Harry is supposed to be the one to do it? If he doesn't actually kill voldemort or curse him or something, it is obvious he will attempt to save harry's life at one point or another.

[HeadHunter]

good theory

[Fable]

nice idea LOTRfan, JKR was inspired by tolkein to write, she sort of copies (not in a bad way) off him. Who knows, maybe pettigrew will start to realize how wrong being a death eater is and decide to backstab voldemort. Or, Pettigrew will do a job incorrectly for him, get viciously punished and turn on Vol.

[HeadHunter]

i am really confused why Petigrew wasnt in this book

[Laterose]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
hey laterose: could the "formula" possibly be connected to LOTR?? I was just finished rereading the third book and the part about Pettigrew "being in debt" to Harry stuck with me. For those of you who haven't read LOTR and want to know (major spoiler)- Frodo has mercy on Gollum and lets him live and Gollum ends up being the one who destroys the ring by acccident. So he had a MAJOR part to play as Gandalf (dumbledore) predicted. Another character Pettigrew can be compared to is Wormtongue. Wormtongue is Saruman's most faithful servant who Gandalf and Frodo insist should be left alone. Because he is allowed to live he ends up turning on and killing his master. he is then in turn killed by the hobbits. So is it possible that Pettigrew could kill Voldemort or harm him in some way? And as a result die himself? Or would that not be possible because Harry is supposed to be the one to do it? If he doesn't actually kill voldemort or curse him or something, it is obvious he will attempt to save harry's life at one point or another.

Very good theory, never thought of that connection

[hpk37067]

That's true. And it fits because Pettigrew has to return the favor to Harry because Harry saved his life. So I give a round of applause for LOTRfan!!!

[D-fence]

:applaud: WHOOHOO!! LOTRfan!! WHOOHOO !! :applaud:

[Mobycat]

I read in a magzine (Movie something or other - it had a bunch of stuff on Potter, LOTR, Spiderman, etc) that Rowling said that someone, under pressure, will be able to do some magic late in life. This, to me, hints at either:

1. Filch (squib)
2. Arabella Figg (squib)
3. Petunia (IF she by some off chance, really is a witch)

My money is on Figg.

[Laterose]

I bet Petunia

[D-fence]

Originally posted by Laterose
I bet Petunia

Yup! Rowling is already hinting at it in OOTP I think..

[Laterose]

I think so as well. She might not fully be a witch, but she may have some magic

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by Laterose
I think so as well. She might not fully be a witch, but she may have some magic

HAHAHA that would be funny...to see Dursleys face or read what his reaction is

[que_SuertE777]

I agree with Laterose. Petunia has some magic in her. That's probably why she was jealous of Lily. Lily was a full-fledged witch. If Petunia had only some magic, and Lily was accepted into Hogwarts when Petunia wasn't, maybe that made Petunia "hate" magic or anything related to it. Maybe she lives the life she has at 4 Pivet Drive because she wanted to get away from not being "good enough."

[D-fence]

People keep saying the mirror Sirius gave Harry just doesn't 'fit' right into the story. Well, the funny thing is: EVERYTHING in these books fits together like a giant puzzle! Hagrid telling Dumbledore he got the flying motorbike from one Sirius Black in book 1.. Dumbledore telling Harry that his father saved Snape's life many years ago.. When Harry tells Dumbledore about Trilawny's prediction in GOF, he answers: "Well, that puts her total number of REAL predictions on TWO I think!"
And If you re-read the very 1st book, you'll notice Dumbledore and Harry have the following conversation at the end:

'The truth' Dumbledore sighed. 'it is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefor be treated with great caution. However, I shall answer your questions unless I have a very good reason not to, in which case I beg you'll forgive me. I shall not, of course, Lie.
'well... Voldemort said that he only killed my mother because she tried to stop him killing me. But why would he want to kill me in the first place?'
Dumbledore sighed very deeply this time.
'Alas, the first thing you ask me, I cannot tell you. Not today. Not now. You will know, one day... put it from your mind for now Harry. When you are older.. I know you hate to hear this.. when you are ready, you will know.
And Harry knew it would be no good to argue.


Rowling had EVERYTHING planned out. Even the smallest details and 'mistakes' we can think of now, will be set straight later on. The mirror Sirius gave Harry is obviously one of them. So is Petunia's hatred against her sister, so is the arch way, so is the colour of Harry's eyes (because this STILL hasn't been explained properly has it?) and without a doubt Wormtails absence from Book 5 will have a function.

NOTHING Rowling puts in these books is 'done at the last moment', and I for one can't wait to see it all come together on the very last pages of the 7th book!
Oh and Laterose, I know I started this tread to get a few answers about what will happen in the last two books: I don't want them anymore! :) The biggest part of the fun is seeing this brilliant story unfold more and more with every book! So you all feel free to discuss and debate about what will happen with our favourite wizards, I for one will wait until JK gives us another one of her puzzle pieces to marvel at! ;)

[hpk37067]

I love it when every tiny detail is magnified later on.

[que_SuertE777]

It's fun picking the most insignificant detail and making a whole big deal about it. How else would we deal with boredom? It's very powerful you know.

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by D-fence
People keep saying the mirror Sirius gave Harry just doesn't 'fit' right into the story. Well, the funny thing is: EVERYTHING in these books fits together like a giant puzzle! Hagrid telling Dumbledore he got the flying motorbike from one Sirius Black in book 1.. Dumbledore telling Harry that his father saved Snape's life many years ago.. When Harry tells Dumbledore about Trilawny's prediction in GOF, he answers: "Well, that puts her total number of REAL predictions on TWO I think!"
And If you re-read the very 1st book, you'll notice Dumbledore and Harry have the following conversation at the end:

'The truth' Dumbledore sighed. 'it is a beautiful and terrible thing, and should therefor be treated with great caution. However, I shall answer your questions unless I have a very good reason not to, in which case I beg you'll forgive me. I shall not, of course, Lie.
'well... Voldemort said that he only killed my mother because she tried to stop him killing me. But why would he want to kill me in the first place?'
Dumbledore sighed very deeply this time.
'Alas, the first thing you ask me, I cannot tell you. Not today. Not now. You will know, one day... put it from your mind for now Harry. When you are older.. I know you hate to hear this.. when you are ready, you will know.
And Harry knew it would be no good to argue.


Rowling had EVERYTHING planned out. Even the smallest details and 'mistakes' we can think of now, will be set straight later on. The mirror Sirius gave Harry is obviously one of them. So is Petunia's hatred against her sister, so is the arch way, so is the colour of Harry's eyes (because this STILL hasn't been explained properly has it?) and without a doubt Wormtails absence from Book 5 will have a function.

NOTHING Rowling puts in these books is 'done at the last moment', and I for one can't wait to see it all come together on the very last pages of the 7th book!
Oh and Laterose, I know I started this tread to get a few answers about what will happen in the last two books: I don't want them anymore! :) The biggest part of the fun is seeing this brilliant story unfold more and more with every book! So you all feel free to discuss and debate about what will happen with our favourite wizards, I for one will wait until JK gives us another one of her puzzle pieces to marvel at! ;)

Thats deep man...really deep...i feel so much closer to you all now....*SOB* :D

but i do really like you point...i agree with you 100%

[Laterose]

Originally posted by D-fence
Oh and Laterose, I know I started this tread to get a few answers about what will happen in the last two books: I don't want them anymore! :) The biggest part of the fun is seeing this brilliant story unfold more and more with every book! So you all feel free to discuss and debate about what will happen with our favourite wizards, I for one will wait until JK gives us another one of her puzzle pieces to marvel at! ;)

:applaud: well said.

[hpk37067]

I have a question Laterose. I have been observing LOTR and HP closely and I see that there are 2 wars in HP. One involving the fight with Voldemort and the one involving the Ministry of Magic. Will HP be very similar to LOTR in the sense that the Ministry war is over and the fight for Earth begins?

[Laterose]

It remind me of when they are in Rohan.

"I will not risk open war"
"Open war is open you, whether you risk it or not."
vs
Dumbledore trying to make Fudge believe Voldemort has come back

[hpk37067]

I thought of it as more like The Two Towers is the war against Saruman against the war against the Ministry. Not as significant as the war on Sauron or Voldemort but significant nevertheless. Now that that war is over, the real war begins.

[Laterose]

but Saruman was alling with Sauron, so it's different

P.S. that scene in Rohan IS in the Two Towers

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Laterose
It remind me of when they are in Rohan.

"I will not risk open war"
"Open war is open you, whether you risk it or not."
vs
Dumbledore trying to make Fudge believe Voldemort has come back
"Open war is UPON you" (i know that's what you meant but i was just clearing it up for those who may not have seen it)

[que_SuertE777]

Originally posted by Laterose
but Saruman was alling with Sauron, so it's different

Alling? Do you mean allying?

[hpk37067]

Yes, what did you think it was?

[que_SuertE777]

Just trying to clear things up. No need to get snippy about it.

[Laterose]

exactly, quit picking fights

[hpk37067]

I'm sorry.

[Laterose]

It's okay

[hpk37067]

I wasn't snippy. I was just wondering what she was thinking. Sorry for asking.

[MidgetNazgul2]

Wow. Some of these are really deep. I have my own theory on Voldy's death, but I think it might be a little far fetched.

Harry was able to conjure a Patronus at a very young age. I think that will be what finally brings Voldemort down. A Patronus defeats dementors, which are symbols of fear and evil, but isn't Voldemort too? I just thought, since Harry's greatest weapon is his ability to feel emotions so strongly, he could apply that against Voldy, using the happiest things he can think of. I also think it applies to Rowling's whole heartwarming-children's-book ideals.

I put this idea in another post, but no one acknowledged it...*snif*

Oh, and I have this nagging feeling Ron is going to die...I mean, nothing really horrible has happened to him, right? Hermione has been struck down twice, and Dumbledore's already been under threat, so that leaves, IMO, poor Ron. What do you think of that?

[Laterose]

Personally, I think one of the Weasleys will die only because Wormtail spied on them for soooo long.

[hpk37067]

Maybe what Mrs. Weasley keeps seeing when she fights the boggart will be key. I mean, that scene was kinda pointless, but we've seen in books and movies that nothing is pointless.

[PsychoMike]

I wasn't compleatly pointless Mr Weasley was attacked and lif it wasn't for Harry would have died.

[hpk37067]

So...............what are you saying?

[HeadHunter]

that the scene was used later inthe book with the fear that Mr Weasley ACTUALLY might die

[hpk37067]

That's true. But that wasn't the whole part. It was mostly referring to the part that Harry can see through Voldemort and that this was going to be key later on. That's what the whole bite Mr. Weasley scene was about. Molly keeps seeing her entire family dead and maybe they all have to duel with the Dark Lord or something of the sort.

[HeadHunter]

well i hope they dont die...*The weasleys that is*

[hpk37067]

Yeah, they seem to be a very exciting family.

[Laterose]

agreed

[hpk37067]

no doubt

[Laterose]

anyway...what were we talking about?

[HeadHunter]

Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll

[hpk37067]

How about Laterose tell us more of her predictions?

[HeadHunter]

*Chants* PREDICTIONS predictions

[Laterose]

you really want some?

[HeadHunter]

hell...why....not....it is getting slow here right now

[Laterose]

Alright,
I predict that the relationship between James/Sirius/Lily is more complex than we realize.

[HeadHunter]

and you needed to put that in these

[hpk37067]

Explain prediction lady.

[HeadHunter]

yeah i dont really get it either

[LOTR RING]

I always wanted to know why Sirius decided not to be the secret keeper for the Potters.

And did Sirius have any connection with Lily, perhaps a very interesting connection;)

[PsychoMike]

Originally posted by LOTR RING
I always wanted to know why Sirius decided not to be the secret keeper for the Potters.

Sirius was too predictable. He was James's best friend and he was pretty powerful, i'd presume. Peter wasn't too powerful he would be the last person anyone would suspect the secret kepper to be, also the last anyone would suspect to become a traitor. It was a bit of reverse psychology, unfortunetly it didn't work.

[Laterose]

Originally posted by LOTR RING

And did Sirius have any connection with Lily, perhaps a very interesting connection;)
That's sorta what this prediction is about....but there's some parts of the book I need to reread.

[hpk37067]

Why don't you elaborate?

[Laterose]

I had a sneaking suspisicon about Sirius' relation to Harry, but I'm starting to doubt it now. I think LOTR RING knows what I'm talking about.

[Martinnyg]

Nah, I don't believe that one. That's as far out as the "Lupin and James switched bodies" theory.

[HeadHunter]

Originally posted by PsychoMike
Sirius was too predictable. He was James's best friend and he was pretty powerful, i'd presume. Peter wasn't too powerful he would be the last person anyone would suspect the secret kepper to be, also the last anyone would suspect to become a traitor. It was a bit of reverse psychology, unfortunetly it didn't work.

yeah that is right, I read PoA just and that is what it said

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Laterose
I had a sneaking suspisicon about Sirius' relation to Harry, but I'm starting to doubt it now. I think LOTR RING knows what I'm talking about.
I think I know what you were thinking...with the whole Lily/James/Sirius thing. But the whole "you look exactly like James thing" kinda throws that out. But maybe, just maybe, Harry has a half-sister somewhere;)

[D-fence]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
But maybe, just maybe, Harry has a half-sister somewhere;)

Luna ??

[LOTRfan]

maybe.....;)

[MidgetNazgul2]

?!

[redman]

ewwwww! and we've been thinking that they'd get together.

[que_SuertE777]

That's kinda like that story of this adopted guy who found out that his best friend was really his brother and his sister turned out to be the girl he almost married.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

If Harry has any surviving relatives other than the Dursleys its the Mark Evans mentioned in the first chapter. JKR NEVER just drops a random name and Mark EVANS would be very coincidental.

[que_SuertE777]

You know, I never knew what Lily's last name was until OotP.

[Martinnyg]

Originally posted by D-fence
Luna ??

That's physically impossible.

Luna's dad is still alive. James is dead.

Luna saw her mother die, when Luna was 9. Lily died before Luna was born.

[Laterose]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
I think I know what you were thinking...with the whole Lily/James/Sirius thing. But the whole "you look exactly like James thing" kinda throws that out. But maybe, just maybe, Harry has a half-sister somewhere;)
But I've always been curious about that, espically in the books when somebody says that Sirius could have passed for James' brother.

[hpk37067]

JKR said that the color of Harry's eyes would be very significant. What do you think of that?

[Laterose]

There's a really good book out there called "A guide to Fantasyland" that talks about "color coding". What sort of clothes, eyes and hair they have are essenctial to what their personality/fate is.

[hpk37067]

So what are you saying?

[Laterose]

the colour of Harry's eyes is actually very important, but, now that you've reminded me, so is the description of Sirius.

[hpk37067]

:angry: I don't get it! You keep going off on a tangent.

[Laterose]

You just want me to tell you?

[hpk37067]

sure.

[que_SuertE777]

Why is the color of his eyes important? They're exactly the same as Lily's. On page 208 of Sorcerer's Stone, it says, "She had dark red hair and her eyes- her eyes are just like mine, Harry thought, edging a little closer to the glass. Bright green- exactly the same shape...."

[hpk37067]

No. JKR said that his eyes would be very significant in books to come.

[Laterose]

green eyes, in fantasy stories, mean either a great talent in magic or music. Also, it can mean a special power.

Since Harry's a wizard, we know already about his magic, but this could mean he has a greater power still.

But Sirius's description and it's meaning fascinated me.

[que_SuertE777]

Originally posted by Laterose
the colour of Harry's eyes is actually very important, but, now that you've reminded me, so is the description of Sirius.

I mean, why would it be important in the Lily/Sirius sense. Or are they separate concepts?

[Laterose]

They are separate, but they deal with each other in ways

[hpk37067]

Yeah, what's so special about Sirius?

[que_SuertE777]

Which description of him are you talking about?

[Laterose]

Well, in book three, at first, he was the murderer right? Then we found out he was innocent. That's not so original, but if you look at everything we know about Sirius AND the original description of him, for me, it's quite a coincidence.

[hpk37067]

For us of a lesser mind, could you please explain. This thread was made for spoilers.

[que_SuertE777]

Wait, where is the original description of Sirius in PoA?

[hpk37067]

Either on the Knight Bus or somewhere at the end.

[que_SuertE777]

Wait, are we talking about the description of him as a dog or as a man?

[LOTRfan]

wasn't it on TV? With the Knight Bus he was a dog so it wasn't an accurate description. Harry saw him on muggle television but all it said was "gaunt face surrounded by a matted, elbow-length tangle" Is that what you are talking about Laterose?

[que_SuertE777]

Can you give us a page number or chapter or something, so we know what description it is?

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Does anyone think that the Evans mentioned in OotP has any significance?

[eclipsedman]

The color green definately means something. Apparently it is the most important color in witchcraft and in Big Trouble in Little China the women the wizards seek have green eyes. Someone left a link to some baptists chuches sight that talks about Harry Potter and the books relationship to the occult. Interesting stuff. Heres the link cuttingedge.org Some of it is some funny ****. Laterose just lay it out for us will ya, I want some good grease.

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Tim37ninjageniu
Does anyone think that the Evans mentioned in OotP has any significance?
Wow...I never noticed that before. What page was it on? That definitely could be important.

[Laterose]

Alright, I'm laying out some of my cards:

Tonight, I've found two connections in literature to Sirius

Link One: Jake in Animorphs
Jake also has the ability to turn into a dog, though not looking much or acting much like Sirius. however, he dies within the series, who's death is a crushing blow to one character who is ready to kill herself. However, Jake does come back from the dead.

How this may relate to Sirius: This is one of the many links to Harry Potter from this series, but if Sirius is connected to Jake, Sirius may yet come back from the dead.

Link Two: Edmund Dantes in The Count of Monte Cristo
Edmund spends seventeen years in a horrible prison (for a crime he didn't commit) where almost everyone goes insanse and escapes, seeking revenge. However, he befirends his best friend's son after rescuing him in Rome.

How this may relate to Sirius: It sounds way to much like Sirius, even the descriptions of Edmund in the book. HOWEVER, what scares me is that Edmund's best friend married Edmund's fiancee, which may mean that at one time.....Sirius may have been in love with Lily.....

But these are only speculations.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Originally posted by Laterose

Link One: Jake in Animorphs


Wow. And I thought I was the only one who read Animorphs when I was little. How did the series end I've always wondered. I stopped reading them when I went to middle school.

[Laterose]

I finished reading them till they were finished. There were 54 books in total, as well as four megamorphs, four chronicles and two "choose-you-own-adventures".

The ending was sad :waa:

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
Wow...I never noticed that before. What page was it on? That definitely could be important.

It's mentioned in the First chapter. Harry says to Dudley something like:

"Yeah I heard you did (he means beat up) Mark Evans last week."

It's on page 13. A cousin maybe? There aren't many coincedences in HP but maybe this is. Maybe not.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Originally posted by Laterose
I finished reading them till they were finished. There were 54 books in total, as well as four megamorphs, four chronicles and two "choose-you-own-adventures".

The ending was sad :waa:

Tell me how it ended! I've always wanted to know. Send me a PM. PLEASE.

[Laterose]

go look at your messages

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Thanks. Check yours.

[Laterose]

check yours

[PsychoMike]

Originally posted by Laterose
Link Two: Edmund Dantes in The Count of Monte Cristo
Edmund spends seventeen years in a horrible prison (for a crime he didn't commit) where almost everyone goes insanse and escapes, seeking revenge. However, he befirends his best friend's son after rescuing him in Rome.

How this may relate to Sirius: It sounds way to much like Sirius, even the descriptions of Edmund in the book. HOWEVER, what scares me is that Edmund's best friend married Edmund's fiancee, which may mean that at one time.....Sirius may have been in love with Lily......

I tend to belive that this is a more likely basis for Sirius than the Animorphs books, She seems to have many people based on classic books and mythology than modern books.

Thanks for the insight.

[Bambi]

Well, this may be biased, as Sirius is my absolutely favourite character and I am hoping we will come back in some form... I was looking up mythological and cultural analogies, and dog in Indo-European cultures is a chtonic symbol, the guardian of the land of the dead (Cerberus), etc. This may transalte: Sirius's passage to the other world may be important in terms of him transferring to Harry some knowledge which wil be crucial for defeating Voldemort (via the veil?). Also have you noticed how unfairly Sirius has been treated by JKR? First he grows up in a really messed up family and runs off, then is thrown into jail when he is in his early 20s for 12 years, then again he is on the run for another 3 years, along the way he loses all the friends and surrogate family he ever had (except for Lupin) and in teh end gets killed in a really stupid way, without even having his name cleared. Simply tragic. I wonder: is there a hidden point? I wouldn't be too suprised if he had, on top of all that, had lost his love, Lily, as well.

[Laterose]

While I do agree that Harry Potter is based on usually more classic literature, there are some similaries between Animorphs and Harry Potter that only struck me while trying to find whether Sirius lives or not.

Thank you for your feedback

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Bambi
Also have you noticed how unfairly Sirius has been treated by JKR? First he grows up in a really messed up family and runs off, then is thrown into jail when he is in his early 20s for 12 years, then again he is on the run for another 3 years, along the way he loses all the friends and surrogate family he ever had (except for Lupin) and in teh end gets killed in a really stupid way, without even having his name cleared. Simply tragic. I wonder: is there a hidden point? I wouldn't be too suprised if he had, on top of all that, had lost his love, Lily, as well.
In the same book that J.K. killed him off you get to love Sirius even more. You find out that his family was made up of dark wizards and that he had so much courage in order to take a stand against his family's ways. He gave up his family just so he could do what he knew was right. His character became fully admirable. I am praying that J.K. is going to somehow give him justice in these last two books. She said the death was necessary for the overall plot and I have a feeling it has a HUGE point. And about Lily being his love: very possible. He could've had a secret crush on her growing up but didn't want to ruin his best friend's happiness and let James win. It'd be just like him. "I'd die for Lily and James." So self-less.

[hpk37067]

I don't think Sirius would have had a crush on Lily or he would have told James or made a move.

[que_SuertE777]

If he did have a crush on Lily, I don't think it was that serious. Otherwise, he'd have been really ticked that James married her. All he has for them is love, not supressed jealously/rage.

[hpk37067]

He would have probably drifted away from James if he did like her.

[que_SuertE777]

Yea, and instead of drifting away, Sirius was James' best man.

[LOTRfan]

Or he could have stuck around him pretending they were friends just so he could be close to her *sigh*

Whoa...I just figured out something: Ron's gonna die not Harry!

[hpk37067]

I doubt that Sirius would waste his time going for something he can't get.

[que_SuertE777]

Would you care to elaborate?

[hpk37067]

I mean, James and Lily are together. They love each other. Sirius can't break that up because they love each other too much. So why would he waste his time to be with her when he can't have her? I don't think he liked Lily in the first place.

[que_SuertE777]

Oh, sorry, not you. LOTRfan. What do you mean about Ron?

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Well since Lily, James, and Sirius are dead I see no way that Harry would find out.

[hpk37067]

Oh.

[que_SuertE777]

Originally posted by Tim37ninjageniu
Well since Lily, James, and Sirius are dead I see no way that Harry would find out.

He could always find out by asking someone who was close to them. For example, Lupin.

[hpk37067]

But I don't think Lupin was there all the time. But Sirius could have told Lupin. But I don't think he liked Lily in the first place.

[que_SuertE777]

I think he did, but only a tiny bit and he got over it. Nothing serious.

[LOTRfan]

was that intentional? (the pun)

[que_SuertE777]

No.

[hpk37067]

That's also true. He could have liked her and then just forgotten about it, like Harry forgot that he liked Cho.

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by que_SuertE777
Would you care to elaborate?
Yes I would. *If* there was a James/Lily/Sirius love triangle then it could be similar to the possible Harry/Hermione/Ron one. Meaning Ron will give up Hermione so Harry'll be happy and he'll die to save them at some point leaving Ron alone and *sniff* dead.

[hpk37067]

Oh I don't know. Perhaps Ron will kinda curb Harry from the truth and eventually stop him from doing what's right.

[LOTRfan]

What are you talking about?! What does that have to do with Lily/James/Sirius ??

[MidgetNazgul2]

I definitely think Ron will die...*snif* I can't even image how Harry would react to something like that...

I don't think Ron will try to do something as stupid as, or, at the very least, not succeed in stopping Harry from doing the right thing. However, Ron is probably going to take the news very hard when Harry does tell the two of them about the prophecy.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

I wouldn't tell them. Harry is very independent. I wonder how many people know about the prophecy. Probobly not very many at all. Maybe not even McGonnagol. She didn't mention it in the first chapter and I would have brought that up.

Anyway I don't think Harry will tell Ron or Hermione unless he hooks up with Hermione which I dought.

[Laterose]

All I can say is this, refering back to Lily/James/Sirius

James was doodling har name on a test paper. This may not mean much to some, but it means quite a bit to me.

True, deep feelings are alot harder to admit then that.

[LOTRfan]

Aha!!!!!! So you did agree with what I was thinking. I hope it's not true though...Maybe we are just going deeper than we should be.

[Laterose]

That was the first thing in my mind while reading that section for the first time. Infact, I burst out laughing and my mom looked at me funny.

We may be reading this wrong, but still, I am very curious about this....

[hpk37067]

So what are you saying?

[Tim37ninjageniu]

I don't get it either.

[MidgetNazgul2]

Why shouldn't Harry tell Ron and Hermione? At some point, I think they're going to have to find out, and if Harry doesn't tell them, it will cause a lot of problems...oh great, now I'm disproving my point...or am I proving it...darn, I hate it when I confuse myself...anyways, what I (think) I mean is that somehow Ron and HErmione are going to find out, I'm almost positive. >.<

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Yes they probobly will find out anyway but I don't think Harry is gonna be to eager to tell them.

[Laterose]

Originally posted by hpk37067
So what are you saying?
LOTRfan and I are discussing whether there ever was a Lily/Sirius/James triangle.

[Mobycat]

I don't think Harry will tell them. Simply because this isn't just some, "hey, he's after you" sort of thing. This is, "hey, I may not live much longer."

A LOT more weight on this. And Harry is always contemplating what R&H's reactions will be to him telling them things. And he doesn't like to be babied, which is exactly what would happen if they found out.

I probably wouldn't tell my best friends - mainly because I wouldn't want to have them worrying about it.

[Laterose]

I wouldn't tell them either, but they're are going to figure it out, whether Harry accidentkly spills the beans or not.

[hpk37067]

People would distance themselves from Harry if he told R&H because they know that either he will be a murderer or the victim and they will just be in too much awe of him. Like when a guy gets really nervous to a girl he likes.

[que_SuertE777]

I don't think he should be nervous about telling Ron and Hermione. What was said the prophecy isn't something new. I mean, you can imply from the beginning that HP will be the one to vanquish Voldie or be vanquished. Since Harry has already encountered Voldemort 5 times and survived, he'd be the most likely candidate... other than Dumbledore that is. If I were either Ron or Hermione, I wouldn't "be in awe" of Harry, I'd just worried for his safety.

[Laterose]

They'd baby him, unintentionally.

[MidgetNazgul2]

Ron would at least. I think Hermione would look at it in alogical way and be right behind him all the way. She's smarter than to try and stop him.

[hpk37067]

Originally posted by Laterose
They'd baby him, unintentionally.

That's true. They'd probably stop him from doing dangerous things or he will die and no one will have a chance of beating Voldie then.

[MidgetNazgul2]

Well, they'd have to figure out at some point that they can't do that, and accept the fact that he might die...I'm just pointing out the obvious, aren't I?

[Stands Alone]

Is there a problem with Harry killing Voldemort? I mean, he will be gone for good, and killing Voldemort is something everyone would be pleased of. It's the fact that he is rather small (In magic skills) to compete against him.

[Laterose]

no, but if Voldemort defeats Harry, they are all doomed.

[hpk37067]

Originally posted by Stands Alone
Is there a problem with Harry killing Voldemort? I mean, he will be gone for good, and killing Voldemort is something everyone would be pleased of. It's the fact that he is rather small (In magic skills) to compete against him.

Correction. Everyone except me will be pleased.

[Laterose]

but you're always the exception, get used to it :p ;)

[hpk37067]

Right, gotcha. Anyway, we can conclude that Voldemort will die to the satisfaction of everyone but me. But what we cannot conclude is whether Harry will die with him. Laterose, tell us your magical theories concocted from thin air.

[Laterose]

I'm still working on it, but I sure that Sirius' death is very relevant so I'm searching literature for references of "veils" or people similiar to Sirius' character/life/looks.

[eclipsedman]

Laterose check under near death experiences.

[hpk37067]

Originally posted by Laterose
I'm still working on it, but I sure that Sirius' death is very relevant so I'm searching literature for references of "veils" or people similiar to Sirius' character/life/looks.

Well, that's very vague. There are like thousands of books that have a Sirius like figure that dies.

[Laterose]

eclipsedman: will do

hpk: It is very vague, but if there's a Sirius like charcter that crosses some sort of veil, then I may be on to something.

Man, we she wrote that part, I thought she copied one of my stories...

[hpk37067]

Yes, I can certainly see JKR sneaking into your room and reading your stories in the dead of night.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

I think that Dumbledore's brother is the barkeeper at The Hogs Head. I read this theory at a different site but it makes perfect sense. His description is like Dumbledore's and Harry said he looked vaguely familiar, he did not seem interested in actually being a barkeeper, it said that the bar smelled of goats and in book 4 we found out Dumbledore's brother was arrested for performing illegal charms on a goat.

Yeah I know that was random.

[hpk37067]

I agree it was random. And maybe the leaky cauldron will be significant in later books.

[eclipsedman]

I wonder what those illegal charms were put on the goats for??

[hpk37067]

Think about it. Well, if you have a sick mind that is.

[Kerry from Cali]

Originally posted by que_SuertE777
That's kinda like that story of this adopted guy who found out that his best friend was really his brother and his sister turned out to be the girl he almost married.

Ohh! I saw that story (it was a repeat) just two weeks ago. (if it's the same family) There were like 12 kids adopted out from this large Irish family. None of them knew about the others, and a few didn't even know they'd been adopted. The part about the two best friends really being brothers was neat, but the part where he'd accidentally dated (and then some) his own full blood sister gave me the willies. (they seem to have handled that pretty well)

to get back OT, I don't think there are going to be any sibling surprises ahead. And I've been thinking about Harry having his mothers green eyes. Maybe it's more important that he have his mothers eyes, but not necessarily what color they were. If the movies later claim that he looks just like James, but has Lily's eyes, people (who haven't read the books) will assume her eyes were blue. There's nothing saying it's the *color* that make it important, just that he has her eyes. Does that make sense?

Kerry =)

[Tim37ninjageniu]

I think that the Evans mentioned in book 5 is a relative of Harry's somehow. JKR doesn't put many coincedences in the books.

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Kerry from Cali
Maybe it's more important that he have his mothers eyes, but not necessarily what color they were. If the movies later claim that he looks just like James, but has Lily's eyes, people (who haven't read the books) will assume her eyes were blue. There's nothing saying it's the *color* that make it important, just that he has her eyes. Does that make sense?

Kerry =)
Very good point. If the color was important J.K. would have made sure Dan had those green eyes for the movie.

[LOTRfan]

Originally posted by Tim37ninjageniu
I think that the Evans mentioned in book 5 is a relative of Harry's somehow. JKR doesn't put many coincedences in the books.
It's possible. Or it could just be her way of teasing us. However, we did find out what Lily's maiden name was in the same book she mentions Mark Evans so it probably has meaning.

[Laterose]

Originally posted by LOTRfan
Very good point. If the color was important J.K. would have made sure Dan had those green eyes for the movie.
But I was sure he DID have green eyes in the second movie....

[Martinnyg]

I think that in some scenes he had green eyes in others his natural blue.

[hpk37067]

I don't think JKR actually has any influence on the films anyway, considering the change quite a bit and leave some very interesting scenes out.

[Laterose]

a little influence, but not much

[hpk37067]

Influence probably for the most important things. Like where the entrance to the COS is and the sort.

[Mobycat]

She might not have much influence over the director. But she has a LOT of influence over the scriptwriter.

I believe she said that was one of the conditions of movies being made - that she does have a major say in what happens. She didn't originally want to have movies made.

I know one of her biggest demands that it remain a British story, and that they use British people in it. She didn't want it Americanized.

[flunky]

We want more predictions... please give us some more! I can't think of any predictions, so I think I need some help.

[Tim37ninjageniu]

Actually she has a lot of influence over the director, or at least she did over Cris Columbus. He asked her opinion a lot, she was involved in the casting, and she told him things he needed to change.

[LOTRfan]

Yea...and she said she makes sure that they keep in things that are necessary plot points for her unpublished books. She says you need to include this fact...but she doesn't actually tell them why.

[Laterose]

that would make sense.

Anyway, flunky, you want more predictions?

[Evy]

Originally posted by Mobycat
...I know one of her biggest demands that it remain a British story, and that they use British people in it. She didn't want it Americanized.
What about Canadianized? :)

[Evy]

Ohh and i really hope Harry doesn't die in the end