King Arthur

[southern]

i was thinking that too
but if it is then it'll be a long fight to the death for him cause it look slike the end was broken off

[Darkness]

Now that you mention it he does have the "you just killed me" and "I see the light in the tunnel" look of shock on his face. I'm also thinking that he's the only person in the movie that would cause Arthur to have that reaction when he dies. I does look like he goes down fighting hard, but it looks like the arrow did it

I don't think they were trying to give away the ending, I think it something you can only tell when you take the trailer frame by frame and compare the pictures.

[Darkness]

Actually It looks like Merlin shot him. Look at the picture I pointed out and you can see him standing at the very edge of the frame with what is obviously a bow. On looking at it again and comparing the person on the ground to the picture southern put up, it's definately Lancelot. The arrow is in the same place at the same depth and everything and the armor is the same. That's definately Lancelot.

[southern]

probably is, remember the trailer where Arthur is crying over someone dead with Guinevre next to him?
that's who i thought was dead

[Darkness]

Yeah, I initially thought that's who it was too, but I wasn't sure. I figured that was the only person who could get that reaction out of him.

[southern]

CAN I PLEASE BE HER!!?? surround by all those gorgeous men:D
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL314/490184/3149133/54412393.jpg

[Darkness]

Heck yeah, and with Hugh showing some leg. LoL. That lucky tramp.

[Alien]

Originally posted by naja
drjones, check your History Books (or the internet, try googling "Hadrians Wall","Roman conquest of Britain" or "King Arthur")
Britain was conquered by the Romans in AD 47, under the Emperor Claudius (you know, the st..stammering one). The Romans didn't leave Britain until around AD 399 and not all of them left anyway.(Not all of them had come from Rome either, but let's not confuse you further)
There is NO historical evidence for a King Arthur, but some historians think he is partly based on a Roman commander from around the 4th/5th century. From what I've seen this film follows that theory. The plate armour and chain mail as you see them in many movies about the Knights of the round table belong to a much later period, the middle to late middle ages, roughly 800 to a thousand years after the period this movie is set in when the "Arthurian legends" were the literary hype of the age.

still doesn't explain Guinevere's attire though... Corection. The Romans only took over England as the Scottish bilt a bloody big wall to keep them out.

And I've heard stories that historians believe that King Arthur came from what is now known as Camelon beacues the name sounds the same - Camelot. If you look at the map Camelon is in Scotland about a mile from where I live. :D But then acording to the LOTR DVD King Arthur was a French story that the English stole.

[Undome-Elenamin]

But then acording to the LOTR DVD King Arthur was a French story that the English stole.

How does the LOTR DVD figure into all of this? :confused:

[Alien]

One of the extras on FOTR talks about why JRR wrote LOTR and it says even the famous King Arthur story has origins in France. Or something along those likes.

[atropfunk]

The King Arthur legend is English I believe - although many traditions have similar stories. The French book "Le Morte D'Arthur" popularized a new take on the legend, with Lancelot and Guinevere and other French elements, but the legend predates that book I believe.

And I don't think you can tell definitively if anyone dies or doesn't die from those pics. People are often wounded in battles.

I'm so pumped for this film by the way - the pictures look awesome - a gritty, Braveheart type take on the Arthur legend is exactly what I wanted

[Andrey83]

Noone here has seen the movie, so noone can know for sure. But yes, i am pretty certain that i'm right ;)

[Darkness]

Yeah, that doesn't look like wounded.

[Andrey83]

There is a new behind the scenes clip up at comingsoon! Check out the trailer page for it.

The film looks to be very brutal!

[Darkness]

Have they rated it yet? I haven't seen anywhere that they've rated it. By this point that normally means they're still struggling to decide whether it's R or PG-13.

[Andrey83]

No rating yet.

I still think it will be R though. At least when i look at those beind the scenes videos. If it is that brutal, then it will be R.

[atropfunk]

Someone in Rotten Tomatoes saw an early preview and said it was really good. SHe also said the battle scenes were very realistic, and that she wouldn't be surprised if it gets an R rating for the violence.


I think that is probably a good thing - at least the realistic battles. Whether that ends up R or PG-13 I guess depeneds on the ratings people, but at least the battle scenes won't be glossified.

[Darkness]

Depends whether the studio wants to play it safe or not. Do they want a lot of butts in the seat or do they want something more realistic. Who knows.

[anaria22]

I think I'd rather it would be an R. I would prefer more of the realistic violence and all that than a mild version. And who knows, maybe a little romance. :) Some Clive and Ioan butt wouldn't be unwelcome. (Luckily, my parents have already agreed that I can see the movie, no matter the content.)

[Andrey83]

hmm.....you women cant seem to talk about anything else then butts ;)

[atropfunk]

There is definitely sex appeal in the cast for both sides - I know that as hot as I think Keira KNightley is - there are just as many women salivating over Clive and Ioan

[Andrey83]

Keira Knightley is very hot! Much hotter then Clive and Ioan :p

[anaria22]

I was tempted not to post a reply to the unending debate of who is hotter, because it's been done so many times, but I find that I just can't help myself. Kiera is quite pretty, but Clive and Ioan are so much hotter!

[southern]

Originally posted by atropfunk
there are just as many women salivating over Clive and Ioan and Hugh;)

[Darkness]

Really, don't forget Hugh.

[Doomsday]

Originally posted by Andrey83
who cares? go to a movie, see it as a movie, and make up your opinion..who frikkin cares if it is a complete ripoff or just based on it.....geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez....

I care. This is a movie that had potential, and I know right now it's not gonna be anything close to the myth (which I know is 100x better than the movie, and I haven't even seen it yet).

[southern]

Originally posted by Doomsday
I know right now it's not gonna be anything close to the myth gee ya think
that's only been said oh 100x at least:rolleyes:

[Doomsday]

And I also implied that because of that fact, it will not be as good as it could have been, hence the comment I put in the parentheses.

[Andrey83]

Well, you should probably see it before you make that statement, but thats my opinion. dont wanna make an argue out of this.

[Wolfgang]

It's not looking good (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17715)

I didn't care for the trailers, but when I read something like this, my interest really nears zero.

[atropfunk]

Sorry wolfgang - but coming from an Aint It Cool reviewer that means nothing to me. I disagree with 99% of what they say on that site. They bash any movie that isn't a comic fanboy's paradise, and then praise crap movies. And I am especially going to ignore this guy, considering he might be pissed he was thrown out of the focus group.

And even more - he said the film was still really rough - so I would imagine that the somewhat confusing editing he referred to would be cleared up. He showed me his lack of knowledge when he claimed the body makeup was a rip off of braveheart! People really used blue "paint" in battle, and the Picts in the movie actually often fought naked (which can't quite be in the movie obviously)- so guess he should say they are ripping off history books!

[Darkness]

Yeah, I've refused to patronize AICN for a while now. Bunch of sell outs the lot of them. I trust nothing they say.

[SoundScream]

Just read the AICN review and its a joke.
1- He is a film student who is angry at Disney.
2- He complains about being shut out of other screenings.
3- He acts as his oppinion was more importent then the averge person casue he studies film.
4- He sais the temp score tjey used wasnt good........... its not the films music how could you call that a negitive.
5- He is upset they are not doing fantasy King Arthur.
I think he would have panned it no matter what. Well we will know the truth soon enouph.

[Andrey83]

I'm gonna have to decide for myself. Thats what i always do about movies. If I wanna see a movie, no critic can make me stop....

[Wolfgang]

I'm not going to defend AICN, as I agree it's mostly crap. However some of the things he said are more factual than subjective, like subplots being raised and then left open. That's not really something that's up for interpretation. They either are or are not developed.

And for the record, SoundScream, you don't know how to read.

2- He complains about being shut out of other screenings.

He complained of being kicked out of the post-screening discussion of King Arthur. No other screenings were mentioned.

4- He sais the temp score tjey used wasnt good........... its not the films music how could you call that a negitive.

He disliked the tone of the temp, that's all he said.

5- He is upset they are not doing fantasy King Arthur.

No, this was on of the subplots that he said weren't developed. He claims the film states that many believe Merlin to have magic powers, but then this belief is never utilized within the story.

If you're going to rip apart a review, do it right. Whether the film is good or not remains to be seen, but it'd probably be wise to restrain your endless enthusiasm and optimism for a film like this.

[southern]

big standee at my theatre today,
wonder if they'd notice it missing:D

[SoundScream]

Originally posted by Wolfgang
I'm not going to defend AICN, as I agree it's mostly crap. However some of the things he said are more factual than subjective, like subplots being raised and then left open. That's not really something that's up for interpretation. They either are or are not developed.

And for the record, SoundScream, you don't know how to read.



He complained of being kicked out of the post-screening discussion of King Arthur. No other screenings were mentioned.



He disliked the tone of the temp, that's all he said.



No, this was on of the subplots that he said weren't developed. He claims the film states that many believe Merlin to have magic powers, but then this belief is never utilized within the story.

If you're going to rip apart a review, do it right. Whether the film is good or not remains to be seen, but it'd probably be wise to restrain your endless enthusiasm and optimism for a film like this.
2 and 5 your right about I read it wrong. But he did complain about the temp score and it doesnt matter what he thought of it cause its not going to be used. My point was that he didnt need to bring it up he just did to say something bad about the movie. For the record I am neither for nor afainst this movie so dont make me into some raging fanboy.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by southern
big standee at my theatre today,
wonder if they'd notice it missing:D


Ey, what did you do?!?! :)

[JackBauer]

Originally posted by southern
big standee at my theatre today,
wonder if they'd notice it missing:D

:D good job.

they will notice, they just have enough of that stuff stored so they wont cry.

btw, i like your sig. Its from Equilibrium, isn't it? great movie.

[Andrey83]

One of Sean Beans best lines ever!

[JackBauer]

definetly, i love this actor for some reason. and his lines in Goldeneye are unforgettable.

back to topic.
King Arthur looks great, but why can't Keira Knightley be in every movie? :D

[Andrey83]

She is hot for sure :)

Have you seen the latest behind the scenes? when she is fighting and stuff? wow, one word: Brutal!

[JackBauer]

not yet, gotta check it out

[Darkness]

I'd like Ioan, Clive and Hugh to be in every movie, but we can't everything now, can we.

[JackBauer]

no we can't :(

[Darkness]

Though they've really got to deal with Hugh's ratty facial hair. He's looking slightly like a deranged lumberjack.

[southern]

Originally posted by JackBauer
btw, i like your sig. Its from Equilibrium, isn't it? great movie. yes to both:)

[atropfunk]

THought I'd get this back on topic.

So the script was written by David Franzoni - the writer of Amistad and Galdiator. Think this will be another hit for him - one that critics and moviegoers go for?

[Darkness]

Both Gladiator and Amistad were really well written and got actors from both movies nominated for Oscars. One can only hope about this one. Clive Owen could be the surprise dark horse for an Oscar if all goes well.

[atropfunk]

Originally posted by Darkness
Clive Owen could be the surprise dark horse for an Oscar if all goes well.

He is definitely an up and coming actor - but I think the whole cast is pretty solid. Although I did hear Clive was up for the Bond role - so his career in the States is probably going to take off with this movie.

The battle scenes definitely look impressive - so some techie Oscars are also a possibility.

[Darkness]

I just think the rest of the cast isn't going to have enough screen time to make an awards impact if you know what I mean. Owen is the main character and I expect them to emphasize his role, even if the rest of the cast is phenomenal as well. Who knows though. I hope this is a surprisingly good movie.

[southern]

so is this coming out July 9th or 7th?

[anaria22]

July 7th I believe. Shouldn't it be rated by now? That's less than a month away.

[todd philip]

I hope that it is rated R

but whatever!

This does look like it MIGHT be good though.

[southern]

Originally posted by anaria22
July 7th I believe. Shouldn't it be rated by now? That's less than a month away. that's what the site says
reason i ask is that imdb has it under the 9th now...they changed it:confused:

[Darkness]

Technically it should probably be rated by now, which makes me think they're still debating which way to go with the rating. They also have Spiderman to worry about at that time.

[atropfunk]

The release date is the 7th, and no word on the rating yet - but I'm not too worried either way.

I think Arthur will do good box office - and I think people might again be surprised by a Bruckheimer films' quality (he showed them with Pirates last year!)

[dustindame]

I think for some reason that i would like Arthur better than Troy. And Arthur looks a heck of a lot better than Alexander does so far.

[anaria22]

I want to get the teaser poster for this movie. Where's the cheapest place on the internet to buy it?

[Adam87]

Has another else seen the trailer with the Requiem For A Dream theme in it? Like LOTR: TT.

[southern]

Originally posted by dustindame
IAnd Arthur looks a heck of a lot better than Alexander does so far. oh yeah
Alexander doesn't look even remotely good

try allposters.com or google.com and put in a search

[Necross]

I really want to see this film.

Guinivere(sp?): "Don't worry, I won't let them touch you."

[Just Myself]

what's it rated?

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Adam87
Has another else seen the trailer with the Requiem For A Dream theme in it? Like LOTR: TT.

No. But that sounds cool.

Do you have a link?

[atropfunk]

I don't think it is online yet - but it was a very cool ad.

Coming soon did post these new commercials yesterday

"Montage" (http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/k/kingarthur.php)

and no word on the rating yet.

[Knerys]

Being that I just spent the last year study Acient Rome and the middle ages I kinda looking forward to a historical point of view on Arthur.

And as for Alexander, I reserving judgement until I see a more encompassing trailer. But so far it looks it will be decent at the least. never been a Stone fan but hopefully he hasn't let himself go rusty.

[poeman]

Kiera Knightley is just worth watching this film. i dont care about anyone else!

[Knerys]

Ioan. :grin:

[Frizzo the Clown]

Originally posted by Knerys
Being that I just spent the last year study Acient Rome and the middle ages I kinda looking forward to a historical point of view on Arthur.

And as for Alexander, I reserving judgement until I see a more encompassing trailer. But so far it looks it will be decent at the least. never been a Stone fan but hopefully he hasn't let himself go rusty. I've spent quite a large chunk of my life studying Arthurian legend, and I'm really looking forward to the historical angle of it too. Other movies were good, but they never really got the time period right.

[Steve125]

Originally posted by Necross
Guinivere(sp?): "Don't worry, I won't let them touch you."

I LOVE that line! :D She's gonna kick so much ass.

[Darkness]

Keira is going to be on Jay Leno next week. I'm sure it's for KA, so all you boys can drool over her all you want.

[Frizzo the Clown]

Originally posted by Darkness
....so all you boys can drool over her all you want. Oh good...because I'd planned on it. ;)

[FilmJerk]

movie looks alright

[Garnet Spring]

Originally posted by Darkness
Keira is going to be on Jay Leno next week. I'm sure it's for KA, so all you boys can drool over her all you want. I don't be drool over her, but I do obsess over her. So this is good news for me.:D


Does anyone else think the tv spots for this one are extremely poor? I think they are down right awful. But the thing is, I recently adopted the opinion that the movie doesn't nearly look as bad as I at first had thought. I didn't like the initial trailer for the movie but then I saw the final trailer and kind of liked it, and now the tv spots are threatening to kill that momentum for me. At least they would be if I actually believed the movie was going to be the way the advertising suggest, but I don't.

I'm not sure how to explain it, but I sense a bit of false advertising.

[poeman]

Originally posted by Darkness
Keira is going to be on Jay Leno next week. I'm sure it's for KA, so all you boys can drool over her all you want.

oh awesome i did not know!

[anaria22]

Which day is she going to be on Leno?

[southern]

Originally posted by Knerys
Ioan. :grin: saw the t.v. spot for Lancelot the other day and YUM:D

[Colorado Cajun]

Originally posted by Knerys
Ioan. :grin:

better not suck like he does in everything else he's been in or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p

[southern]

out of this thread!:p

[Necross]

edit, forgot....don't argue with idiots or they drag you down, Kerry is so wise...

[ElysiumFirefly]

I'm getting confused by all the previews. Could someone tell me if there's a love triangle or not? I thought I'd read somewhere that there wasn't, but the previews and magazine articles say otherwise. Help!

[southern]

wish i could help but i've heard both too

[mstrjedi15]

i've been waiting for this movie to come out sense i heard about it, from what i heard its supposed to be the closest to the actual story than any other production or telling of the myth, also guenivere is supposed to have a huge fight scene which i am looking forward to

[KayTang999]

Someone please explain why this movie doesn't have a rating yet when the movie is going to be release in less than 3 weeks?

[Boro]

i've seen previews for this on tv..... it has me interested.

[Darkness]

Originally posted by southern
wish i could help but i've heard both too

So have I. I think it's going to be one of those things that we'll only figure out when we watch it. I've heard a lot both ways, which is strange. Ioan specifically said that there's no love scene of any kind between him and Keira, yet I keep consistantly reading stuff that says there is some sort of love triangle aspect. Maybe it'll be unrequited on Lancelot's part, I don't know.

[mstrjedi15]

i dont know if this will help or answer your question but from what i know from the original story, king arthur is supposed to fall in love with gunivere and then lancelot and gunivere get it on so arthur banishes him and sentences gunivere to be executed but lancelot saves her adn they run away together.

[KayTang999]

I always think that Arthur loves both Guinevere and Lancelot so much that he couldn't punished them for what they did. When I read Le Morte D'Arthur, it wasn't clear to me but I know that Lancelot was no longer in the round table so I guess he got banished but I am not sure if Guinevere was sentencing to death.

But like Southern and Darkness said, there are so many news and interview coming about the love triangle, may be Kiera might clear it up when she comes on Letterman and Leno.

[atropfunk]

this version is different from Le Morte D'Arthur. I don't think there is any love triangle - at least not acted upon, and especialyl no sentencing to death of anyone.

Remember - in this version Arthur isn't king yet.

But I am looking forward to Keira on the talk shows

[mstrjedi15]

i know lancelot and guenivere had something going on behind arthurs back, but i may be wrong about the punishing to death.

also in the trailer for lancelot it shows a tiny quick part with someone "doin something" with gunivere, but they dont show it on arthurs. so i almos tpositive there something between lancelot and gunviere as you said he wasnt a part of the round table i think its because he got banished

[Darkness]

I think there might be a triangle aspect, but it might not be acted upon. From the majority of clips, Guinevere and Lancelot are shown to really dislike each other. Their "romance" might not be a really big deal in the movie.

[anaria22]

Just so long as they've got some guys stripping off that hot leather. :D

[southern]

Originally posted by mstrjedi15
also in the trailer for lancelot it shows a tiny quick part with someone "doin something" with gunivere, but they dont show it on arthurs. so i almos tpositive there something between lancelot and gunviere as you said he wasnt a part of the round table i think its because he got banished it Arthur in the trailer i think

Darkness.....i like the unrequited love idea:)

[Darkness]

Originally posted by anaria22
Just so long as they've got some guys stripping off that hot leather. :D

LOL! Amen.

The comment about Lancelot and Guinevere on the official website makes it sound like Lancelot had something for Guin, but that he got over it. It honestly might be the unrequited bit.

As for having no rating yet, it's because the movie isn't done yet. Keira Knightly cleared that up last night. She hasn't even seen the movie yet because they're still finishing it.

[southern]

Originally posted by Darkness
The comment about Lancelot and Guinevere on the official website makes it sound like Lancelot had something for Guin, but that he got over it. It honestly might be the unrequited bit.
where?

[Darkness]

In his bio.

Lancelot-
Lancelot, a charismatic, killer is Arthur's right-hand man. If Arthur is absorbed by his idealistic vision of how the world could be, Lancelot is more grounded in the cold and filth of how the world truly is. Passionate, arrogant and cocky, Guinevere nearly leads him astray, nevertheless, he remains absolutely dedicated to Arthur. Gleefully skillful with his two swords, Lancelot fears no enemy.

[southern]

Originally posted by Darkness
Guinevere nearly leads him astray, nevertheless, he remains absolutely dedicated to Arthur. good

Gleefully skillful with his two swords that's very hard to do:eek:

[Darkness]

I'm curious as to how she "nearly leads him astray" other than him being really attracted to her. But wouldn't she have something to do with that, because if it was unrequited, why would it even matter if he liked her? Not sure about this triangle thing.

Arthur is shown as an idealist, Lancelot as a cynic, and Galahad as just an extremely angry young man. It's an interesting dynamic anyway.

[atropfunk]

I'm pretty sure there is nothing acted upon between Lancelot and Guin.

I agree that the dynamic between the soldiers sounds interesting. Especially since the knights are all Sarmatian, and Arthur being Roman would almost make him an enemy, yet he is their commander. Must be tough to stay loyal to someone who you are forced to serve under.

Anyway - should be interesting to see how that plays out

[Darkness]

The most I could conceive of in the triangle is mutual attraction between Lancelot and Guinevere and even that is probably going to be downplayed. They fight a lot so maybe it's one of those "they fight so much they must love each other" type of things.

Again, that lucky little hussy.

[Garnet Spring]

Yay! I saw Kiera on Leno last night, looking just down right gorgeous, but I only caught the last half or her interveiw. She was talking about the blue paint she had to wear in the film, among other things.

Anyone else catch it?


A few not-so-good screen cap:

http://www.keira-knightley.org/multimedia/pictures/Captures/JayLenoJune222004/13.jpg

http://www.keira-knightley.org/multimedia/pictures/Captures/JayLenoJune222004/54.jpg

http://www.keira-knightley.org/multimedia/pictures/Captures/JayLenoJune222004/115.jpg

[Nautica7mk]

I caught it. I thought she was absolutely adorable. Well spoken too. She sounds so down-to-earth and laid back as opposed to all the other characters I've seen her play. The whole getting her own 'flat' (aka apartment) and the 6 roomates, in which Leno proudly refers to as an orgy... LOL! had me in hysterics.

She explained how she was a result of a bet made between her (actor) father and (writer) mother.

Some information in regards to the final production of "King Arthur" was noted. The final product isn't finished, and she herself haven't seen anything until last night when Jay showed clips of it. She reiterates that the story of "King Arthur" is demystified, basing it more on realism rather than fairytale. Her character is a strong-willed fighter/character and she and Jay exchange numerous funny quips about her and her character. It was so funny. Kiera's reactions had me LOL.

She also explained that when she got the part of Guenevere, she had to learn to ride a horse even though she absolutely terrified of them. She can't understand how a creature so big and strong would listen to her (Oh god, have I mentioned how adorable she is?) and when it came down to actualy shooting, she didn't ride a horse. LMAO! On a serious note, I've actually read the script/novelization of the movie and .............................................. spoilers ........................................ she does ride a horse, so she's either very modest, they worked around that, or it was a brief scene. I recommend you read the novelization. Even though I'm completely spoiled, I thought their realistic version of King Arthur gives the legend justice.

[Darkness]

She's very mature for a 19 year old, I'll say that.

[southern]

*girl thought* her hair looks like ****

did she say anything about a love triangle?

[Nautica7mk]

Originally posted by southern
did she say anything about a love triangle?
No, but I can answer the question for you if ya want.

[movieguy475]

i'm pretty curious, I just might see this.

[KayTang999]

I think that this movie is really different from everything we know and I think that even with or without love triangle, this will be one unique movie.

[todd philip]

good god i hope this does not have a love triangle

[anaria22]

I kind of hope it doesn't either. Look what it did to Pearl Harbor. And I always hate how Arthur is being betrayed by two friends.

[popcopy]

I missed it -- but i dig her new hair.

I had no idea that KK's only 19 -- jeez --- she always looked older than that.

I have a feeling that this King Arthur won't involve some kind of crazy love triangle -- at least that's the feeling i got from the TV spots.

[dustindame]

Originally posted by todd philip
good god i hope this does not have a love triangle

Me to, i just want to see some kick ass action in it.

[Nautica7mk]

I wish I could see the movie... like... right now so I can compare the novelization to the actual film itself. Between the book and the trailers scenes, only miniscule lines were changed. For example, the novelization has Guenevere saying, "don't worry, I won't let them rape you" but in the film itself, it's "I won't let them touch you" (which I thought was a better change)

As for the whole Arthur/Guenevere/Lancelot questions....

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There's no elicit-stab-Arthur-in-the-back love triangle with the characters. The book displays how all the knight's are in awe of Guenevere, because she is both fragile and dangerous at the same time. It's amusing reading them all transfixed, but it is made perfectly clear where her heart lies. Of course, some things may change since my information comes from the book's version of the film. I'm sure some parts of the book may get cut but everything I've read has coincided with the scenes from the trailer.

And one thing I've wanted to let out for quite some time, I was absolutely riveted by the description of young Arthur and how he came in possession of Excalibur. I'm a dork, it made me cry. I honestly feel this realistic take of King Arthur can stand on its own merits .

[Boro]

im really getting pumped now.

[Steve125]

Originally posted by Nautica7mk
And one thing I've wanted to let out for quite some time, I was absolutely riveted by the description of young Arthur and how he came in possession of Excalibur.

I picked up the novel too and loved that part! I'm glad the love triangle wasn't played up very much. As far as the Arthur/Lancelot/Guinevere thing goes, overall it is mentioned something like "the issue would have to be addressed later on, but not today." And it really isn't. While her and Arthur's relationship leads to sex, her one with Lancelot is just a couple of long looks at each other.
Lemme say that if there is as much violence in the movie as in the book, it could easily merit an R rating. LOTS of beheadings, as well as face slashings, limbs getting chopped off and the likes.
And also, if the battle on the ice is as good in the movie as it was in the book, this is gonna be the ultimate summer movie.

EDIT: I think she might say "I won't let them rape you" in the movie, cause in the trailer it cuts away after she says 'them'.

[anaria22]

Wait, you people keep on refering to "the novel." Which is "the novel?" Is there just one the movie was based on?

[Steve125]

There's probably some other ones, but the one we're talkin about is the movie tie-in.

[Nautica7mk]

I knew there was an official term for it. LOL! Yeah, it's the movie tie-in novelization. I recommend fans read it after watching the movie. It really is a beautiful story.

[Darkness]

Sounds great. I like that treatment of the triangle. Sure, she'd be happy with Arthur, but with Ioan playing Lancelot, yeah, I sneak a couple looks too. ;)

[KayTang999]

I saw that novel at the Waldenbook on monday. It was kind of like how they did it with POTC. You know have the book out which was pretty much 99.99% similar to the movie verse.

[Steve125]

Originally posted by Darkness
Sounds great. I like that treatment of the triangle. Sure, she'd be happy with Arthur, but with Ioan playing Lancelot, yeah, I sneak a couple looks too. ;)

lol well one of the more noticeable of the glances includes Lancelot catchin a glimpse of Guinevere changing in the wagon :eek: lucky man there.

[Andrey83]

Steve: (spoiler) Did the book say anything about lancelot's death? there is a pic flooting around where it seems like lancelot is laying dead on the ground with an arrow in his cheast. So....is this is?

[Steve125]

Originally posted by Andrey83
Steve: (spoiler) Did the book say anything about lancelot's death? there is a pic flooting around where it seems like lancelot is laying dead on the ground with an arrow in his cheast. So....is this is?

Yep (pretty big spoiler here) The main bad guy's son, Cynric I think his name was, goes to try to kill Guinevere to prove himself to his father. Needless to say, Lancelot steps in and kills him, but gets arrowed in the process.

[Darkness]

Originally posted by Steve125
lol well one of the more noticeable of the glances includes Lancelot catchin a glimpse of Guinevere changing in the wagon :eek: lucky man there.

I take it she didn't know about that or he'd be missing eyeballs for the rest of the movie, judging from her character. I'll admit I'd have a hard time picking if I were her. I hated Guinevere in Le Morte d'Arthur, but I understood her delimma. Stability or passion, though they aren't playing that up in this movie, it's still the bottom line.

[Darkness]

Originally posted by Steve125
Yep (pretty big spoiler here) The main bad guy's son, Cynric I think his name was, goes to try to kill Guinevere to prove himself to his father. Needless to say, Lancelot steps in and kills him, but gets arrowed in the process.

Nooooo...*sniffle* Self sacrificing male always makes me weepy. Especially when they're good looking.

[KayTang999]

Now that I know, I am prepared. I guess knowing it now won't make me as sad as I would be if I didn't know before I get to see the movie.

[atropfunk]

whoa - avoiding these spoilers is tough. I'm glad everyone says they liked the novelization - makes me even more excited for the film.

As for Knightley - she is very charming and down to earth, yet mature for her age. And she is soooooo hot it is unbelievable - especialyl with her accent.

I'm really looking forward to the movie and hope it is a big hit for Knightley.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Steve125
Yep (pretty big spoiler here) The main bad guy's son, Cynric I think his name was, goes to try to kill Guinevere to prove himself to his father. Needless to say, Lancelot steps in and kills him, but gets arrowed in the process.

Thanks alot mate. It sounds like a very good scene!!

(and to those who doubted me about that pic. It looks like i was right :D)

*dances around on the table*

;)

[sphericthor]

I didn't even give this movie much though until now, looks mighty good to me

[Garnet Spring]

So now this is officially Pg-13. It's a bit odd considering Bruckhiemer was bragging about them going for a hard R. I just hope the cuts aren't too noticable. It shouldn't take away from the quality of the movie though.

[bigmanjg225533]

since its pg-13 they will probably have a R rated DVD along with the theatrical version

[Darkness]

Probably true since they took such a long time trying to decide what to rate it. I just hope it's as good as it looks.

[Steve125]

Originally posted by bigmanjg225533
since its pg-13 they will probably have a R rated DVD along with the theatrical version

Yeah but I sure hope we don't run into the whole Daredevil R rated version issue. What ever happened to that?

Also, I don't think the PG-13 rating will be a big deal. What it lacks in gore it makes up for in cool action sequences. And the way the sex scene was written it wasn't kinky or anything, it was romantic. As rare as that is these days.

[Darkness]

They probably cut down that scene as well if it's only PG-13. I'm glad they aren't putting the emphasis on that. More focus on the story, less focus on THAT.

[KayTang999]

PG-13? I just saw a commercial and it said the film is not rated yet. Interesting.

[Steve125]

I was actually kind of pleased with how the sex scene was written. *mild spoilers* They're both very desperate and about to go into a battle with a pretty high chance of death and they just want to be with each other. Plus it was obvious the lustful stares would lead somewhere. lol

EDIT: At least the CS page for it says PG-13. But as far as I can see at the official site it's still Not Yet Rated. :confused:

[Darkness]

I saw a commercial yesterday and it said rated PG-13. It's definately rated.

Well, had I been her I would have been jumping Lancelot instead of Arthur, but each unto their own ;)

[popcopy]

When was Bruckheimer bragging about an R rating?? did i miss something??

I'm not too bothered w/ the PG-13 rating -- PG-13 is A LOT harder now than it used to be...

this also means that we'll get an R/unrated DVD w/ all kinds of goodies.

[krazy_marco74]

i thought it would be PG-13...but i guess that's good news for me, now i can have a better chance of seeing it.

[atropfunk]

i'm not bothered by the PG-13 - we've seen the battle clips in the trailer and they look sweet. They probably just cut out some excess gore.

I'm sure all the 13-18 year old boys who drool over Keira are psyched!

[KayTang999]

Well Troy was R rated and still did not live up to the R rated that they got so may be King Arthur being PG-13 might actually be a good thing.

Jerry mentioned really early on that this movie would be really gored but I guess Disney wants to keep its standard of being immature to suit its immature audiences.

[Nautica7mk]

Originally posted by KayTang999
... but I guess Disney wants to keep its standard of being immature to suit its immature audiences.
Ugh! Typical...

There better be a Director's Cut Version of King Arthur when it's released on DVD. Or atleast I really hope there is.

[KayTang999]

May be. You guys should start a petition. That kind of push always work.

[Nautica7mk]

Originally posted by KayTang999
May be. You guys should start a petition. That kind of push always work.
Been there, done that... and though it can definitely work at times, it's simply exhausting. Campaigning is hard, but very rewarding in the end, it just takes vigilance and patience, and if anyone here can do that, I commend you. Hell, I'm getting my BDM (aka Serenity) because of it, so it is an option. I'm just worried that "King Arthur" will be overlooked since "Spiderman 2" is being released a week before it. If it does well, I can imagine JB pushing for a director's cut version for the DVD set.

[KayTang999]

Well I love the TV series "Wonderfalls" and our campaign pay off. We are getting our belove series on DVD. So it work. I think if you want to do one for King Arthur director cut or special edition DVD, it would be even easier than what we did for "Wonderfalls".

[Halofan1]

I won't be seeing this. Doesn't look interesting and it preturbs me that Bruckheimer has fallen to society by giving himself the helm "THe Producer of Pirates of the Caribbean" to get people to his movie. Maybe smart advertising, but it's not the Jerry I know.

[KayTang999]

As far as I know, most of his movies make a lot of money at the boxoffice but IMO, the only movie of his that deserve Oscar was Black Hawk Down but it was directed by Ridley. I kind of use to how he produces his movie. So unless I really want to see it, I won't see his movie at all. Until this day I still haven't seen the whole entire movie of Pearl Harbor.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Halofan1
I won't be seeing this. Doesn't look interesting and it preturbs me that Bruckheimer has fallen to society by giving himself the helm "THe Producer of Pirates of the Caribbean" to get people to his movie. Maybe smart advertising, but it's not the Jerry I know.

Gotto be the most stupid comment i have ever heard. You do understand that sales is important right? No? well, i feel sorry for you.

And say hello to "Jerry" for me :rolleyes:

[Garnet Spring]

^^Agreed. Really stupid comment.




Originally posted by popcopy
When was Bruckheimer bragging about an R rating?? did i miss something??Sometime around when the movie started filming. He was saying it was going to be a hard R and it was going to be gritty, and other things in that vein.

[rock-star]

I don't know why so many people have to piss and moan about these types of films. Just shut up and enjoy the goddamn movie like it's any other.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I'll watch this one.Interesting.:)

[GoGo_Village]

Don't know if anyone saw this, but there's a really bad review for this over at AICN.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I'll wait for more reviews to come up before making that kind of judgement.

[Steve125]

There's a good review in there somewhere too I think. I know I've seen it somewhere, I figured it was at aicn.

[KayTang999]

I just read on at AINC and I think the person didn't get the whole idea of not having fantasy feel in the movie and the person kind of didn't like because of that. He thought that without the fantasy, there is no story.

You will most likely get bored or pissed at my comment since this is getting kind of like "Troy". The similar thing happened which was the idea of making the movie more realistic and took out the fantasy elements. Personally, I didn't mind at all about it not being in "Troy" or in "King Arthur" but having it would be a plus.

I think the person who review King Arthur at AINC is used to the fantasy version of the story that he can't grasp the idea that the fantasy story he has been living in was based on real story.

[PsYkOoOoO]

I dont mind leaving the Fantasy element out as well.After all,this is supposed to be the TRUE story.

[KayTang999]

Exactly! The world is full with ignorant narrow minded people. It is really sad and pathetic. At the same time, there are people who is too dedicated to see that whatever the thing the person is dedicated too is not worth of the time.

Another thing is that if you don't like the review then just don't give a crap about it and go to see the movie for yourself. I like to read and watch the review and preview of the movie so I know what other people opinion on it but that doesn't mean I have to like believe them. So if you want to see the movie just go and watch it. No one will stop you. Don't let one review affect you!

One word, RELAX!

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Garnet Spring
Sometime around when the movie started filming. He was saying it was going to be a hard R and it was going to be gritty, and other things in that vein.

Yeah, i guess his first cut was like this. So there probably will be an R rated/unrated DVD version.

[Halofan1]

Originally posted by Andrey83
Gotto be the most stupid comment i have ever heard. You do understand that sales is important right? No? well, i feel sorry for you.

And say hello to "Jerry" for me :rolleyes:

I understand sales are important, but I am saying before Pirates came out, he was still one of the most successful producers in Hollywood without saying "I produced this" or whatever.

And please remove the stick from your rectum.

[KayTang999]

Well like I said, you should start a petition for the unrated version DVD.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Halofan1
I understand sales are important, but I am saying before Pirates came out, he was still one of the most successful producers in Hollywood without saying "I produced this" or whatever.

And please remove the stick from your rectum.

*flomp*

there, the huge stick was removed.

And I still feel the same way about your comment. There was nothing hostile against you there. Dont be so sencitive. That was a stupid comment you had. If you dont wanna admit it fine. I dont think i know of ONE producer that dont use his name to advertice IF it is worth it (a biig/well know producer that is/from a popular film).

And con air: "from the producer of The rock"

Armageddon: "from the producer of the rock and con air"

I could name the rest, but i cant remember wich movies they advertised with.

I know you are a huge Bruckenheimer fan, and so am I. There is nothing wrong with surfing on your name.

And he is also doing it for his new film

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/Yeehaacon/nationaltreasure_01.jpg

this may not sound like the Jerry you know, but i think the fact is you dont know him at all ;)

[southern]

anyone remember First Knight?
no magic in that and it was a good movie......this looks 75 times better so :D

[PsYkOoOoO]

Originally posted by southern
anyone remember First Knight?
no magic in that and it was a good movie......this looks 75 times better so :D

It was alright.A little cheesy though.(I hate the armors.Looked like Star Trek.)

[Halofan1]

Originally posted by Andrey83
*flomp*

there, the huge stick was removed.

And I still feel the same way about your comment. There was nothing hostile against you there. Dont be so sencitive. That was a stupid comment you had. If you dont wanna admit it fine. I dont think i know of ONE producer that dont use his name to advertice IF it is worth it (a biig/well know producer that is/from a popular film).

And con air: "from the producer of The rock"

Armageddon: "from the producer of the rock and con air"

I could name the rest, but i cant remember wich movies they advertised with.

I know you are a huge Bruckenheimer fan, and so am I. There is nothing wrong with surfing on your name.

And he is also doing it for his new film

http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/Yeehaacon/nationaltreasure_01.jpg

this may not sound like the Jerry you know, but i think the fact is you dont know him at all ;)

I didn't appriciate your sarcastic remarks. I never claimed to know Bruckheimer, and I don't remember him saying "From the producer of the Rock" he always said "From Producer Jerry Bruckheimer".

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by southern
anyone remember First Knight?
no magic in that and it was a good movie......this looks 75 times better so :D

It was alright but I didn't like it as much as I should I guess.

[JackBauer]

I heard this guy Ioan is supposed to be in "Fantastic Four".

[KayTang999]

Really! That's great! Ioan needs a big project to boost his status so he can be a well accomplish actor with a great resume that reflect his talent. Where did you heard that?

[JackBauer]

he's only a possiblity, the official cast will be announced this week.

http://www.superherohype.com/fantasticfour/index.php?id=1626

[KayTang999]

Is he going to be the one who has fire power?

[JackBauer]

Human torch? yup, i guess so. we'll se IF he's going to play the role.

[KayTang999]

Hmm, interesting choice of casting. I guess it would work out fine.

[JackBauer]

it realy doesn't sound bad. i never read the 4 comics. this is new to me.

[KayTang999]

I have heard of it but never read it myself. Personally, I think comic adaptation is overrated nowadays.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by Halofan1
I didn't appriciate your sarcastic remarks. I never claimed to know Bruckheimer, and I don't remember him saying "From the producer of the Rock" he always said "From Producer Jerry Bruckheimer".

wasnt being sarcastic. ;) is for kidding. i also typed "There was nothing hostile against you there"...

And he WAS using his name like that in the past as well. You may beleive what you want to believe. Why should i care.

But, i didnt meen to insult you or anything. It looks like thats what you thought.

edit: And just a note. HE never said it. The commercial said it. Just like this time.

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Really! That's great! Ioan needs a big project to boost his status so he can be a well accomplish actor with a great resume that reflect his talent. Where did you heard that? he needs to make some more Horatio Hornblower movies while he's at it.....i really like them & the books

[Darkness]

Originally posted by southern
he needs to make some more Horatio Hornblower movies while he's at it.....i really like them & the books

Love the HH series, and I heard that the rumor is for either Mr. Fantastic or The Human Torch, if it pans out.

Can't wait for KA. Ioan is supposed to be on Craig Kilborn this week.

[KayTang999]

Keira will be on Letterman on Tuesday and Ioan will be on Kilborn on Friday.

ETA:
According to IESB.net ( http://www.iesb.net/movies/movie62504c.htm ), there will be an R rated cut on DVD of King Arthur.

[Andrey83]

Is there any reviews of this movie out yet? (except for AICN, i dont read those reviews......)

[KayTang999]

That is the only one that is posted online as far as I know but in a few days there should be more coming in.

[Steve125]

Hey what do you guys think this is gonna do to Spiderman's Box Office? Think it'll take it out of top spot?

[Garnet Spring]

If anything were to take Spiderman out of the top spot that weekend, I would place my money on Anchorman. But I don't think either will do it at the moment.

[Necross]

I think King Arthur could. That weekend will either be 1. Spider Man 2, 2. King Arthur, 3. Anchorman or 1. King Arthur, 2. Spider Man 2, 3. Anchorman.

IMO of course.

[Steve125]

Yeah I think if anything were to put a dent in Spiderman it would go in the 2nd order. It would probably be King Arthur. I'm seeing both though, so that's gonna be fun. I still think I'm gonna pass on Spiderman though. haha I'm one of the few that are going to do that.

[atropfunk]

I don't know if you are the only one who will pass on Spidey. My girlfriend walked out of the first one. Yet she claims she wants to see King Arthur.

I think Arthur will be a solid earner opening and the following week.

I'll be interested to see reviews - although I almost always decide to make up my own mind about a movie (AICN reviews don't count IMO)

[Steve125]

Yeah I really didn't like the first one, and just have no interest in the 2nd. Actually a couple of the people I went with didn't like it either. Oh well, to each his own I guess.
I would never base my decision to see a movie based off reviews, unless the majority of them say a movie is crap regarding a movie that already looked like crap. Does that make sense?

[Nautica7mk]

I've noticed a lot of early reviews about the unfinished version of "King Arthur" are expressed with deep biased opinion. Comparing it strictly with the Arthurian Legend, which I thought was sad because they clearly stated that this was a realistic take on King Arthur... and to be honest, looking back on films based on the Arthurian legend, none of them were all that spectacular, though with this, I'm anxiously awaiting it.

As for S2... well, I watched the first and wasn't too impressed. The casting choice of Mary Jane and Peter still bothers me. Though, I thought it wasn't terrible and I know Tobey and Kirsten are excellent actors, Peter Parker and Mary Jane they are not (JMHO). I'm watching S2 strictly because I'm a Spiderman fan, but I'm watching "King Arthur" cuz I just can't wait to see it. :)

[southern]

no chance it'll knock S2 out sadly

[popcopy]

Eh, you never know, I'm trying not to lose hope.

In either case -- new King Arthur images available here:
http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2004/KingArthur/

I'm keeping an eye out for new reviews and such.

[southern]

proof that sadly Lancelot dies
http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2004/KingArthur/movie.1/110.jpg
i want to be her
http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2004/KingArthur/movie.1/135.jpg

[Nautica7mk]

One thing you've got to admit... it's beautifully shot. Those images are gorgeous.

[Steve125]

Yep for sure! Keira's lookin great in those pictures too. I like the ones of Young Arthur, as well as the Woads ones. These battles are lookin kickass.

[dustindame]

I think i will like this one better than the big Troy movie.

[Andrey83]

I cant see the pictures :(

[Steve125]

Yeah I guess the direct links didn't work. You have to go to the link in the post above southern's. If you really want to see the pics I can pinpoint em for you.

[Andrey83]

ANd now we know who kills him too.... :(

And they burn him....those pictures realy tell it all!

Wild guess:

Guinnevere is fighting that dude (whatever his name is, cant remember), she is loosing. Lancelot sees this. Runs over, fights. He starts winning. That dude grabs arrow-fireing-thing (cant remember the word here either :) ), *smock*. It hits Lancelot in the cheast. Movie goes into slow mo in a couple of seconds. Then lancelot charges over and fights on. The dude eventually kills him (you can see him standing in the picture where lancelot is laying dead). Sad. Then Arthur kills the dude. Then Arthur Burns the body of lancelot.

So steve....i'm pretty right am i not :)

[atropfunk]

Those pictures are really impressive - I especially like the wide angle ones of the battlefield.

Did everyone see the clip on IGN - high drama!

IGN (http://filmforce.ign.com/kingarthur/articles/526/526396p1.html)

[Andrey83]

Very cool clip!!!! thanks for posting that! :)

[Steve125]

Andrey - okee I had to re-read this part to remember it all but this is how it goes the main bad guy Cerdic's son named Cynric sees they are losing the battle, and goes to kill Guinevere to try to get his father's respect. Guinevere and him get in a brief tussle, Lancelot notices and steps in. He knocks Cynric back, and kills some more henchmen, but Cynric takes advantage of the opportunity and shoots him in the chest. Slow motion, Guinevere yelling 'Lancelot'. Arthur sees this and yells out too. Lancelot keeps fighting, spears Cynric, goes over to him, says a sweet line I don't want to spoil, and they die side by side. Everyone's sad. So you did get a lot of it.
Now to watch that clip.

[Tornado]

Originally posted by Steve125
Hey what do you guys think this is gonna do to Spiderman's Box Office? Think it'll take it out of top spot?
I would highly doubt that.

[Steve125]

Unfortunately, I doubt it will either. :(

[Andrey83]

Damn, i'm i was very close just by looking at the pictures. I had it all except for one thing :)

The clip shows that the acting seems to be very good in this one. At least in that scene :)

[KayTang999]

Both King Arthur and SpiderMan 2 are PG-13. It would be really lucky for King Arthur to at least make 3/4 of what SpiderMan 2 would make in it first 3 days openning.

I didn't like the first one either but the trailer for the second impressed me immensely. Probably the best trailer I have seen so far this year and I am not even a fan of the comic or the movie.

[southern]

Originally posted by KayTang999
I didn't like the first one either but the trailer for the second impressed me immensely. that's the same reaction i had to the first movies' trailer....huge disappointment

i can't believe this movie is so close to coming out:applaud:

[Steve125]

Yes! A week today! I'm so pumped! (But I dunno if I'm seeing this opening day, I might be going the day after). But oh well!

[Darkness]

I'm getting so excited for this movie, probably as excited as I was for Troy. It looks absolutely wonderful.

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by southern
that's the same reaction i had to the first movies' trailer....huge disappointment

i can't believe this movie is so close to coming out:applaud:

Well the first one wasn't like totally bad but I wasn't hype about it.

[Steve125]

Hey guys, here's some links to some clips on Yahoo Movies
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&id=1808404754&cf=trailer
Oh and Andrey there's also a small clip from the scene we were talkin about on the last page.

[southern]

Braveheart anyone?
and i mean as far as the battles look:)

[KayTang999]

So did you all catch KK on Letterman?

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Well the first one wasn't like totally bad but I wasn't hype about it.

I loved the first trailer as well (ok the voice over was bad, but what has that got to do with it? :) )

I can only hope they dont **** up like Troy

[Nautica7mk]

Originally posted by KayTang999
So did you all catch KK on Letterman?
Yeah :) I posted my thoughts about it a page or 2 back. Keira was very endearing and a total riot.

[atropfunk]

This will be what Troy wasn't for me - a story good enough to make the large battle scenes worth while.

The fact that they released a dramatic clip was very cool - helped give me more confidence in the acting in the film.

I can't wait for next week - hoping to get to see a sneak preview on Tuesday that local radio stations do

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by Andrey83
I loved the first trailer as well (ok the voice over was bad, but what has that got to do with it? :) )

I can only hope they dont **** up like Troy

I am talking the first spiderman, not the first trailer.

[jenna]

saw Keira on Letterman, have to say that when you see her in movies you forget how young she is! guess that proves what a good actor she is..

[KayTang999]

Not really since she doesn't look like 19 whether she is acting or not.

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by KayTang999
I am talking the first spiderman, not the first trailer.

Oh that makes sense since this is the spider man thread :rolleyes: ;)

[jenna]

Originally posted by KayTang999
Not really since she doesn't look like 19 whether she is acting or not.

she acts like a 19 year old though when you see her off film

[southern]

well i don't know about that, i'm 19 and i hope i don't act that childish......and i'm not saying anything bad just that she just seems to be a baby on the babyish side

is the soundtrack out yet?
rule of thumb for me for the most part......soundtrack out before movie = usually bad movie

[Andrey83]

Originally posted by southern
well i don't know about that, i'm 19 and i hope i don't act that childish......and i'm not saying anything bad just that she just seems to be a baby on the babyish side

is the soundtrack out yet?
rule of thumb for me for the most part......soundtrack out before movie = usually bad movie

There is nothig wrong in being childish from time to time. :)

My sister is 25 and she is still acting childish sometimes, hehe. Nothing wrong in that. Dont grow up too fast. You will regret it when you get older :)

Is there anywhere you can listen to the soundtrack?

[bigmanjg225533]

no i dont think so but it comes out into stores july 27

[southern]

Originally posted by Andrey83
There is nothig wrong in being childish from time to time. :)

My sister is 25 and she is still acting childish sometimes, hehe. Nothing wrong in that. Dont grow up too fast. You will regret it when you get older :)

Is there anywhere you can listen to the soundtrack? keyword being "sometimes"

and yay! that's my birthday, i hopes it good music so i can buy myself it as a present:D

[atropfunk]

good interview on IGN with the screenwriter



Franzoni Talks King Arthur

"It's King Arthur as The Wild Bunch."

June 30, 2004 - The July/August 2004 issue of Scr(i)pt magazine features an insightful interview with King Arthur screenwriter-producer David Franzoni.

"It's King Arthur as The Wild Bunch. We go back to the so-called Dark Ages and search for that key historical moment where the myths of Arthur originated," explains Franzoni. "There was a [Roman] leader, Lucius Artorius Castus, who, we believe, remained behind [in occupied Britain] with his cavalry. That cavalry is key to the myths of Arthur and his Knights: They were Sarmatians. The Sarmatians, a nomadic horse culture from the Asian Steppes, had been sent to Britian by [Roman emperor] Marcus Auerlius."

"The earliest and most consistent [historical] references to Arthur call him a Roman – period," the Oscar-winner insists. "But as [the film's historical advisor] Linda Malcor has pointed out, the Celtic proponents have essentially tried to shoot that knowledge down."

"I had to tell a completely fresh tale of a completely fresh King Arthur – Lucius Artorius Castus, dux of cavalry – and the Sarmatian cavalry he commanded in Britian. The usual tomes of Arthur (the Celtic/Christian version – like Thomas Malory, etc.) have been done. With the possible exception of Excalibur, I don't find the traditional tales compelling. The reason, in my opinion, is that everything has been sanitized to make a Christian morality tale. Of course, many of the Sarmatian pagan elements survive (Lady of the Lake, sword in the stone, the round table, etc.) and that includes the Grail."

When asked what he thinks of challenging the established lore, Franzoni responds, "I mean, what myths are we busting? We know myths are lies, right? What is fascinating is that the myths came from something – someone, some event. Going back to those origins is always going to be more fascinating than the myths because the truth concerns real people, in the real world, facing real life-and-death issues."

Ultimately, Franzoni believes his take on King Arthur "is about how the human spirit – when kept whole by extremely tough individuals – can never be beaten." For much more of Franzoni's interview, pick up the current issue of Scr(i)pt.

[KayTang999]

Originally posted by Andrey83
Oh that makes sense since this is the spider man thread :rolleyes: ;)

Well I wasn't the one who started the conversation about SpiderMan.

I think what I am trying to say about Keira is that no matter how good or bad or acting or not acting, to me she doesn't look like 19, she looks like 22+.

[Skrybe]

Did anyone by chance see the King Arthur special on the History Channel? It was quite good. Hosted by Clive Owen if I remember correctly. Gave a good load of information on the actual history of the Arthur/Arturius stories (as the History Channel always does). I think it was an hour long. For those that did catch it ... any thoughts?

[Skrybe]

Oh, and since I have that issue of scr(i)pt magazine and I'm bored, here's a few q&a's transcripted:


scr(i)pt: Was there anything that you found in your research that you didn't get to put in the film and you wished you could have?

Franzoni: Some of the Sarmatian myths. There were more in previous drafts. I wanted to deal with the Round Table - a common shape of table among the Steppe people - and all the other myths which can be traced circumstantially to the Sarmatians. I wanted to say, not so much "This is where all this stuff came from," but "This is who these people were as human beings."

scr(i)pt: The Arthurian tales have been so romanticized. How do you think that happened? Can you speak to this and the fact that this film may become a mythos-buster?

Franzoni: On one level we have to understand that Merlin didn't fly through the air and turn people into chipmunks. If you believe that, then it's hopeless anyway. I mean, what myths are we busting? We know myths are lies, right? What is fascinating is that the myths came from something – someone, some event. Going back to those origins is always going to be more fascinating than the myths because the truth concerns real people, in the real world, facing real life-and-death issues. Rome left. The Saxons came, and the only real force standing between the locals and death was this Sarmatian cavalry led by Artorius, a Roman. They met on Badon Hill to settle the fate of Britain, many, many generations ago. The heroism displayed on that day makes myth.
The Sarmatians were the finest horsemen who ever lived and unbelievably hardcore on every level. If you read Ovid's letters home after he was exiled by Augustus, he describes what it was like living on the Black Sea when your next-door neighbors are Sarmatians. Those guys could have eaten the Hells Angels and spit out their Harleys. That day on Badon Hill must have been unforgettable.

scr(i)pt: How would you best describe the overriding theme found in this interpretation of Arthur?

Franzoni: When you say theme, I think about what this story is really about. It is about how the human spirit - when kept whole by extremely tough individuals - can never be beaten. The Sarmatians were strangers in a strange land; and, as I've said, they were very brutal people. Brutal. But they live on today in myth, songs and poems.

scr(i)pt: Wouldn't you say that's the warrior archetype?

Franzoni: Well, hopefully. And, hopefully, the film is about who we are and not just about who we should be. Lord Byron once said that the only two men in history who ever used war to create a better world were Leonidas and George Washington. In our minds they are stale ciphers; but look at their lives, and you find real human beings who made staggering choices. Because they are real - not myths or gods - we are capable of making those choices, too.

[Andrey83]

Cool stuff Skrybe! I didnt get to see that thing on history channel, but thanks for posting that magazine article :)

[Muffy]

I'm not sure i'm looking forward to seeing this. :(

What is the plot?

[Andrey83]

One man finds a ring. He then decides to wear this ring untill the end of this life. Then a man chops his hand off and steals the ring and becomes king. Then Arthur has to take this ring back. :p

[jared2402]

I am soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited about it. Especially since I get to see my new fionce on screen for the first time since our engagment..........my darling keira knightley!! :D;)

[Steve125]

Originally posted by jared2402
my new fionce on screen for the first time since our engagment..........my darling keira knightley!! :D;)

I can think of about twenty people on these boards who would probably say about the exact same thing. ;)

[Andrey83]

Including me :D

[SPW]

I can't wait to see this, I anxiously await some reviews as well

[Ad Lib]

If you desparately need some reviews, then you can check my beloved sources:
review 1 (http://www.joblo.com/index.php?id=4687)
review 2 (http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17898)

Personaly I don't give a damn about the movie. Better watch CATWOMAN))))))))

[Andrey83]

Those arent reviews :p

[Ad Lib]

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Really? Persuade me!:rolleyes:

[Andrey83]

Hehe, key in that sentence is " :p "........

i never read the reviews on AICN because they talk so much crap, and I dont like Joblo either. I like real reviewers who have seen the real movie. Not an early cut without effects etc....

thats just me.... :)

[dustindame]

i will believe that review when i see it for myself.

[Steve125]

There was a giant cut-out for this when I went to the movies yesterday. One for Arthur, Guinevere, and Lancelot. I was gonna steal Guinevere, but it was huge so I just don't know where I'd put it. ;)
lol oh and I saw Spider-Man 2. Didn't really think that much of it. Last half hour was good though. (Sorry, didn't feel like posting a negative review in the review threads or I would be killed).

[southern]

the only AINC review i've ever paid any attention to was the one for ROTK and that was cause i thought i'd bust a gut laughing:D

[KayTang999]

Forget the review, it is coming in like 2 days, just go and see it.

[Andrey83]

not for eveyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[southern]

i'm literally scraping every penny i can, selling a few dvds, and hawking books if i have to so i can have enough for gas and enough to see this! :( i don't know what i did with the $20 i had on sunday:waa:

[Steve125]

Ahh! That sucks! After all this waiting! I hope you manage to get it sorted out.
I'm goin tomorrow night cause I work for the rest of the week. Hope it's not tooo busy.

[anaria22]

I just got tickets! Unfortunately, not for opening night but for the day after. Though I'm kind of beginning to wonder about this movie. It's now down to a 29% on rottentomatoes. But whatever, I still think it will be quite entertaining and fun.

[Steve125]

Hmm, well I won't really begin to be concerned about the reviews until the Cream of the Crop ones start coming in. Right now the ones that are up are all from movie websites and stuff like that, so I can't really take those too seriously.

[atropfunk]

I'm going to a preview screening tonight - I'll let you guys know how it is.

I normally don't pay too much attention to reviews - unless they state their expectations going into the film and they are the same as mine.

This line from the Hollywood Reporter review has me confident in that I'll enjoy the movie



Bottom line: An engrossing, highly intelligent reimagining of the legend of Arthur.

[Xander]

Rotten Tomatoes shows bad BAD reviews, and when I say bad I mean Garfield BAD....I might go for some Kiara :-)

[southern]

RT is evil;)

i think i've managed to scrape enough for a ticket:)

[Andrey83]

A review from IGN.

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/528/528413p1.html

It is ok.

[Darkness]

Variety and several other of the big name reviewers gave it a fairly good review and also, some of the ones that they claim are "rotten" are actually more mediocre than terrible.

[Steve125]

I noticed that too Darkness! Some of them are like "This may not be a great movie but I can truly respect it."