Van Helsing

[Punkd_1]

I am looking forward to this film so much. It is going to be HUGE! I love the official site, with all the new renditions of all the classic horror movie characters. Especially Dracula, since he looks like an actual bat. I especially love the pictures that hit the net this past week, the one of Dracula's castle is incredible.

[The FM]

This movie looks like it will rock with the director of The Mummy movies and Hugh Jackman playing the lead role. However, given the characters that will be in the movie, it better have an R rating when it comes out.

[jbailey84]

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0338526/vh-frank.jpg

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0338526/vh-wolf.jpg

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0338526/vh-drac.jpg

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/88/76/23m.jpg

[Punkd_1]

PG-13 is veru doubtful. All the mummy movies where PG-13 and I heard that they are aiming for the same, to get a bigger box office draw. A PG-13 rating, would also allow them to reply on storylines, and huge CGI graphics compared to just gore.

Either way, this movie will kick serious monster ass.

[jbailey84]

yeah. cant wait till it comes out. seems like it will do pretty good.

[Balrog of Moria]

All vampire movies do.

[Hitman]

(ahem) I wouldn't go that far. Let us not forget Eddie Murphy's Vampire In Brooklyn. That movie gave me nightmares and not because it was scary, God no, it was just so painful to watch. Maybe that's what plagued Eddie's career for so many years. I bet he's d@mn thankful for Shrek. Anyway I'm gonna be pretty pissed if another potentially great movie (Van Helsing) becomes watered down for a boring PG- 13 rating. Steven needs to step up to the plate and stop making these dumb "popcorn" movies that have dust exit the body when someone gets shot. The Mummy 1 & 2 are the best examples. For The Wolf Man, Dracula, and Frankenstein to be together all in the same movie, it better be Rated R!

[The FM]

Perfect example is to look at Matrix Reloaded. It made about $135 million in just 4 days! To the makers of Van Helsing, this was an R rated movie. We have T3, Bad Boys II, and Matrix Revolutions coming out this year that will no doubt make a lot of money with an R rating.

When I went to see Reloaded, the crowd was also cheering after the trailer for the upcoming Freddy vs. Jason movie and yet again, an R.

[evilsquishy]

Didn't we have a thread on this?:confused:

[LegolasIsntSexy]

this movie looks ****ing cool

[quotegal]

IT does look like a good one, and I just hope it actually is a good. I don't agree that the rating will play so heavily on it though.

[Mat]

Originally posted by evilsquishy
Didn't we have a thread on this?:confused:

Yes we did, and now there are two.

Plus the same "Must be rated R to be great" people are back. I'm tired of this... A Rating does not determine Greatness!

[necronon99]

i wanna see it
devil may cry big screen

[Blueman]

it looks good and sounds intresting

[jbailey84]

the acting determines a movie's greatness. thats what makes a movie seem real and alive. thats my opinion.

[evilsquishy]

Originally posted by Mat
Yes we did, and now there are two.

Plus the same "Must be rated R to be great" people are back. I'm tired of this... A Rating does not determine Greatness!
Agreed.

[quotegal]

Originally posted by jbailey84
the acting determines a movie's greatness. thats what makes a movie seem real and alive. thats my opinion.

Have to include directing, you can have great actors and a horrible director and find it is a poor movie.

[jbailey84]

yeah true. forgot about that. i was in a hurry cause i had to be somewhere.

[Evilution]

Originally posted by Mat
Yes we did, and now there are two.

Plus the same "Must be rated R to be great" people are back. I'm tired of this... A Rating does not determine Greatness!

I don't think people are necessarily saying that by slapping on an "R" instead of a "PG-13" will make a film better. All we're saying is that, by giving a film an "R" will give the filmmakers more leeway into putting more adult oriented theme towards the movie...in this case, more violence and gore. Let's not kid ourselves, this is a film that's going to require bucket loads of blood to keep the plot interesting...and I don't mean the CGI blood like they did on Blade, I mean real physical stuff like they did on Francis Ford Copola's Dracula. After all, what is the basic premis of this movie? It's about Van Helsing hacking and slashing his way to rid the world of evil using anything to his disposal...everything else, be it romance, or anthing resembling a plot are just fillers. IMO, this type of film requires and "R" for it too work, or else, it'll just be another cheesy flick with no backbone. But, I'll agree with you, it won't necessary make it great, just funner too watch.

[Hitman]

Exactly. I like this guy.

[Mat]

Originally posted by Evilution
Let's not kid ourselves, this is a film that's going to require bucket loads of blood to keep the plot interesting

In my expierience, bucket loads of blood are used to distract the viewer from the fact that there isn't a good plot. The director does not need gallons of blood to make a good, suspenseful action movie. From the interviews with Hugh Jackman, this is turning out to be more of an Indiana jones movie, and those certainly didn't need a lot of gore to be entertaining.

[evilsquishy]

The scariest movies don't have a lot of gore, in my experience.

[jbailey84]

IMO, a movie that is scary to me are the ones that mess with your mind mentally and psychologically (however you spell it). you know something like that.

[Evilution]

Mat,evilsquishy,and jbailey84, I agree with you. Certainly, films don't require SFX or blatant amount of eyecandy to make it scary. Take for instance "Omen", "Exorcist", and "Rosemary's Baby". All these films didn't need gore to help intensify it's effect because the themes they delt with were already embedded into our subconcious as real-world horrors (religion)--a psychological angle IMO is the only "just" way to shoot these themes. Then now a days, we have films like the Ring, the Others, and the Sixth Sense which are all PG-13 that has some scary scenes (although personally I think it was due to loud audio effects),but we're talking Dracula...the Wolfman...and Frankenstein here, their history is paved by blood. I don't see how Van Helsing is going to deal with them without having to resort to bloodloss or limbloss. This is a movie that's literally screaming for gore.

[Mat]

I agree that there'll be some gore due the fact that... well... the original tales were quite gory (not the movies, the books). But it doesn't mean they'll have to have an over-the-top bloodbath just because of this.

Who knows, though? Since matrix2 has made a bucketload of money and it's rated R it could open up the markets for more popular rated R movies. I doubt it though, because most of the parents I know who let their kids see it, knew the matrix wasn't that bad. I doubt they'd let their kids into a movie thats literally an orgy of blood, and the studios would lose a lot of profit so they'd throw out the rated R and go with a nice, parent and money-friendly PG13.

The blood/gore value on this one will probably be on the same level as The Mummy (not a bad movie in it's own respects). I just hope they don't turn this cool literary figure into some Scorpion King-like character. Man, now that was a bad movie.

[Evilution]

Yeah, that's what I fear. Since its' being directed by the same guy who did the Mummy, it's going to follow in the same footsteps--gutless (no pun intended) CGI effects. But hey, the studio is spending "bucket loads" of money on this movie so they'll want to ensure hefty profits by making it PG-13. After watching Reloaded though, it sure didn't feel like an "R" rated film to me--maybe because they used the word "Fu<k" more than once. Well, I'll still be seeing Van Helsing anyways so more power to them.

[Evilution]

--"F**k" more than once. But hey, I'll still go see Van Helsing anyways so more power to them.

[evilsquishy]

I could go either way on the gore issue.

I think as long as it's tactful, there can be gore in this movie.

[Colorado Cajun]

there has to be gore in the movie. It's basically a live version of Vampire Hunter D lol

[PyroXTorch]

This looks so awsome! I love how Dracula and WolfMan looks like. :evil:

[MysteryStar]

I don't think it really needs gore, good movies don't need gore

yeah it calls for it, but I don't see it being any worse than the mummy series, since they have the same director I think

but which ever way I think it's going to be good, I hope it is, and I hope it's not a rushed movie, like bam wolfman, bam dracula etc..etc

[Radiohead]

gore doesn't make a film good or bad but by golly, i want some sheer violence in a film with dracula, frankenstein and the wolfman.

[necronon99]

gore or not this **** will be over the top action wise
SS is that guilty pleasure director who attacks without breathing

[Darkness]

And that's good for escapism movies. I think it will do decent with that formula. I honestly liked the Mummy and subsequent sequels. It wasn't deep, but it's a good DVD to pop in when you don't want to think too hard. Hugh Jackman is a good actor, though his choices haven't been the best with roles, save X-Men. I sort of have faith he'll handle this role well since it's not romantic comedy fare and action he seems to do better.

[Alexander JL]

The new pic looks interesting

[future director]

I think this will be a movie i will be looking forward to. Steve Sommers is a good director, i really enjoyed his mummy movies. Its been a while since we have had an Indiana Jones type movie, and to behonest he came pretty close with The Mummy. I always enjoyed that whole over the top heroic type of cinema. This movie will undoubtedly be PG-13 and im ok with that. This isnt going to be a serious movie its going to be a mix of comedy and action. I almost sure of it. I predict this will be a blockbuster and i am not talking out of my A$$ either.

[Tommybone]

Boys, those monsters pictures (Frankenstien, Wolfman, and Dracula) does brought my interest. Van Helsing seems to be a creatively dark but fun action movie that will be release in the same timeframe as both of The Mummy movies, Spider-Man, X2: X-Men United, and Twister! All of the main monsters looks both scary and imaginative. I think the Dracula and the Wolfman in the upcoming Van Helsing looks very true to the book sources back somewhere in the 1500s, and I think they are pretty much what they're meant to look like than those old, dated 1920's movies. The Frankenstien monster looks just like the same old Frankenstien.

Overall, Van Helsing now becomes one of my most anticipated movies to see in 2004 alongside Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Shrek 2, Troy, The Amazing Spider-Man, and The Incredibles. :applaud:

[Evil Zen]

Look we all know in our heart of hearts that this movie will be PG-13. I'm not saying that violence personifies a great movie. But it freaking helps. Steven Summers has obivously sold out to the man. He knows how to direct horror; its in his soul. Does anyone remember Deep Rising? I loved that movie. It had just the right mixtuure of comedy, violence and gore. If Van Helsing gets made the same as Deep Rising did it will kick ass. I mean what's Dracula if he isn't biting into some young chicks flesh with her blood gushing everywhere?for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction

[sonjablue]

Just show a photo of Hugh Jackman as Van Helsing. WOW!!! This movie goes to the top of my list to see next year.

[Boods]

i seriously think this will be amazing
huge jackman and kate beckinsale are really really cool
stephen sommers is not bad ... lol
but the best are those three monsters .. wolfman looks soooo cool .. so do the other two ...

[Splitfyre]

Any previews? Or have they shot any footage?

[Evil Zen]

I don't know but I would really like to see a preview so I can know what to expect.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

It looks interesting, but Steven Sommers has a shaky track record (Deep Rising, Mummy Returns :sleepy: )

[jbailey84]

http://comingsoon.net/nextraimages/vanhelsing-first.jpg

[SpunkObuffy]

I'm in half agreement with everyone in this post. I believe for the classic monsters in this film, there has to be some sort of bloodshed, but bloodshed doesn't necessarily mean a great horror movie. But for Van Helsing, I want blood. Not buckets, maybe cups full. Bad explanation, but you get me.

I actually tried to think back when all these mosters were combined in one movie that was PG-13 and had a fair amount of gore, and that could be the 80s flick The Monster Squad. There was a minimum of gore in the flick, and it worked. Although there were mostly necksnaps and such, but when they blew the werewolf up and he brought himself back together, that was great. Okay, off-topic, sorry.

Woo Van Helsing!

[Kris Hodgson]

LONG LIVE MONSTER SQUAD!

[Darkness]

Ok, so the picture looks really cool, I have to say. Maybe I just have a thing for leather.

[PapaGeorgioSmrf]

I LOVE MONSTER SQUAD, COOLEST MOVIE IN THE DA WORLD, MAKE A REMAKE OF THAT ANYDAY

[SpunkObuffy]

Eeee Monster Squad. ::smiles happily::

[PapaGeorgioSmrf]

hey spunk, where is your avatar from, is it from that labrynth movie? cause that movie is awesome but whack

[Evil Zen]

I agree. Monster squad was a kick ass movie and I'm pissed that it's not on dvd yet. I really would like my daughter to see it when she's old enough. I also feel that Van Helsing needs be alot darker than the monster squad. Kind of along the lines of The Lost Boys.

[SpunkObuffy]

Originally posted by PapaGeorgioSmrf
hey spunk, where is your avatar from, is it from that labrynth movie? cause that movie is awesome but whack

Yeah, it's of Sir Diddimus from the movie. It's an awesome movie, yes yes. One of my favorites.

[Alexander JL]

Is it any good? I mean by today's standards?

[pennywise]

i've only heard of this movie recently, can somebody explain to me what it's all about? and for some reason, probably cus it's got 3 major monsters in the same movie, i keep thinking it's a comedy.

[Alexander JL]

It probably will be a comedy in the sense that it follows in the footsteps of The Mummy. I think it will be a horror-action-comedy all rolled into one.

[Hitman]

I hope it's not comedic and "fun" like The Mummy movies were. It has to be dark and haunting. A few jokes and one - liners are cool but making it too comedic could be a problem.

[Riddle]

Comedy? what the hell have you been smoking? It's quite clearly an Action/Horror movie. I really don't thing they'd camp it up like The Mummy.

[Hitman]

Who are you talking to?

[Riddle]

Anyone who says this'll be a comedy. And I'm guessing that it's crack that they're smoking. Or maybe dried platypus.

[spiderman_2k]

Whats ur problem???

[Hitman]

Yeah no one even said it would be a pure comedy.

[Riddle]

Don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

If you make me annoyed it's OK, though. If you frustrate me, you're entering dangerous territory.

If you make me happy, I turn into a giant fluffy bunny and give you chocolates and other nice things.

[spiderman_2k]

:confused:
oookkaaayyyy......

[Hitman]

Now we know who's been smoking something all along.....

[spiderman_2k]

LOL indeed we do

[Riddle]

Quiet you! I will send you very threatening words that even I will not understand!!

[Hitman]

Oh no. Stand back. :rolleyes:

[Riddle]

You better!!!

ARRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!


(I'm a pirate)

[quotegal]

Well that was interesting...and pointless.

[Van Helsing]

This topic is getting way out of hand:)

[Alexander JL]

*whacks Riddle over the head with a saucepan*

Okay, problem solved.

[Van Helsing]

I feel much better now.

[Evil Zen]

Originally posted by Alexander JL
Is it any good? I mean by today's standards?

I asume you are speaking of monster squad? Basically it's the Goonies meet Dracula, Wolfman and Frankinstein. Nothing more or less. I love this movie as a teenager man. I would like to add it to my DVD collection but it hasn't been released yet. The special effects aren't incredible but they are decent. This movie kind of reminds me of the old Albert and Costello movies when they battle the monsters.Kick him in the Nards. Wolfman doesn't have Nards. I said kick him in the nards! Woa, Wolfman has Nards.

[downflow311]

does anyone know when a teaser is going to be released for Van Helsing? or the official release date of the film?

[Van Helsing]

I don't know about the teaser or the trailer but the movie will be released on 7 May 2004

[downflow311]

awesome. cant wait. this was one of the movies that when i heard the title, i instintely knew that it could be kick @ss.

[Van Helsing]

I felt like that too Downflow

[downflow311]

trying to keep the thread alive.........

[Alexander JL]

Or trying to get a higher post count?

[Philm]

I watched Bram Stokers Dracula last night (kick ass movie) and Anthony Hopkins take on Van Helsing, was pretty good. It was interesting cause he was full of knowledge but also pretty nutty. I wonder if Hugh Jackman's Van Helsing will be similar.

[Mr.Matinee]

This is the kind of movie I've been looking foward to!And on the matter of gore,we don't need guts flying,but we should have a fair amount of violence.Like:...


Blood for the Count.Whether drinking or bleeding as dying,Drac needs blood!Frank can be shot,stabbed,beaten.Fire will kick his ass though!Wolfman should be feasting.Some blood here and there,but after being shot or whatever,have him waste away.

That sounds about right!

[moviegeek]

hey, i'll just go to see hugh jackman

[downflow311]

i hope it carries an R rating, if its pg-13 it will be kind of watered down.

[Van Helsing]

I agree...That's something to worry about for this movie

[Van Helsing]

I wish I could be at Comic-Con as Bob Ducsay, producer of the horror film Van Helsing, which is due in May 2004, rushed to get clips of his movie together for the convention.

"We just finished shooting last week, but the convention is that important. The best way to get your movie serious buzz early on is to make a good impression there."

[downflow311]

did anyone go to comic-con and see the van helsing footage?

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Alexander JL
Or trying to get a higher post count?

for what reason?

[metalman_03_18]

They should have it as a PG-13 rated movie. Although, alot of PG-13 rated movies have a good amount of violence in them. So it will probably be PG-13, but thats ok. It'll also do really well at the box-office with Hugh Jackman in it.

[Van Helsing]

I was expecting to see some footage or photos to hit the internet anytime by now but it seems desperate :(

[batfreak]

I can't wait for this. Richard Roxburgh is gonna make an incredible Dracula. He kind of reminds me of Gary Oldman. Kate Beckinsale and David Wenham are also in this. Van Helsing is gonna rock!

[Van Helsing]

Since the movie is in post production we can keep our fingers crossed for a trailer anytime :)

[downflow311]

i cant wait for a teaser for van helsing. when i told my dad that a movie was being made with frankenstein, dracula, and werewolf all in it he was like no way.

[MysteryStar]

when is the movie set for release again? isn't in in may? I could imagine that closer to x-mas then there would be a trailer

[Knerys]

Originally posted by Mat
Yes we did, and now there are two.

Plus the same "Must be rated R to be great" people are back. I'm tired of this... A Rating does not determine Greatness! Amen! Look at pirates of the Carribean. PG-13 and still one of the best action flicks this year.

I like Sommers style of film making. The mummy movies are some of my favorites and I think he do good with this one. And as Jackmnan as frontman, it has blockbuster written all over it, heh.

[Kitty]

i think this movie looks pretty damn badass and that, shoot, i can't wait until may 7th :D

[JohnnyBgood]

Is it set in the thirties?

Or 19th century?

[downflow311]

i think the 19th century, but im not exactly positive.

[PapaGeorgioSmrf]

this movie is gonna be awesome, at first i didnt know anything about van helsing the character then i found out a lot and now im really hyped about it.

and those pictures that coming soon posted up looked amazing, cant wait. usually i cant handle movies from the 19th century or olden days like this, but this movie will have a different twist on everything and will look great.

[Van Helsing]

Hey if there's anything you know about the man share it with us. If you are talking about the information that's available so far...there isn't much

[angelusrp]

It takes place in the 19th Century... so its the 1800's. But i think its the early 1800's. I dont know much about him cause I havent been able to find very much besides the basics.. no details. His name is Dr. Abraham Van Helsing. A monster hunter/ vampire slayer and that he held a journal ( :-) monster squad) on Frankenstein, Werewolf, and D R A C U L A.
Anyone else know details?

[sunflower03]

it is based on the doctor from the dracula book

[downflow311]

Originally posted by Knerys
Amen! Look at pirates of the Carribean. PG-13 and still one of the best action flicks this year.

I like Sommers style of film making. The mummy movies are some of my favorites and I think he do good with this one. And as Jackmnan as frontman, it has blockbuster written all over it, heh.

POTC was a good movie, but not because of the action scenes. they were very sub-par. whenever someone talks about POTC its about Johnny Depp's performance. the action scenes sucked IMO. it can be PG-13 and ill be fine with that. but the action IMO would be better if it was rated R. but i bet since its sommers doing this it will be PG-13.

[downflow311]

does anyone have any cg pics or any new pics from van helsing? has the official site been updated at all?

[Van Helsing]

Here are some pictures taken from the set of Van Helsing

http://www.filmdekor.cz/FOTKY/drac1.jpg

http://www.filmdekor.cz/FOTKY/drac2.jpg

http://www.filmdekor.cz/FOTKY/drac3.jpg

http://www.filmdekor.cz/FOTKY/drac4.jpg

http://www.filmdekor.cz/FOTKY/drac5.jpg

http://www.filmdekor.cz/FOTKY/drac6.jpg

[Kitty]

nice, too bad they didn't give us any shots of jackman

[Van Helsing]

I'm still anticipating for the trailer :(

[MysteryStar]

wow those are some nice sets

[Van Helsing]

Here is Frankenstein from the set


http://latinoreview.com/films_2004/universal/vanhelsing/images/franenstein1.JPG

[Xander]

Originally posted by Evilution
I don't think people are necessarily saying that by slapping on an "R" instead of a "PG-13" will make a film better. All we're saying is that, by giving a film an "R" will give the filmmakers more leeway into putting more adult oriented theme towards the movie...in this case, more violence and gore. Let's not kid ourselves, this is a film that's going to require bucket loads of blood to keep the plot interesting...and I don't mean the CGI blood like they did on Blade, I mean real physical stuff like they did on Francis Ford Copola's Dracula. After all, what is the basic premis of this movie? It's about Van Helsing hacking and slashing his way to rid the world of evil using anything to his disposal...everything else, be it romance, or anthing resembling a plot are just fillers. IMO, this type of film requires and "R" for it too work, or else, it'll just be another cheesy flick with no backbone. But, I'll agree with you, it won't necessary make it great, just funner too watch.


nooo! no more gore! I cant get into R rated movies, and I don like gore. Really selffish your are, thinking abotu yourself, have you considerd that there are some under 18 teens who want to see this movie too. I understand what you mean by the directors having more 'leeway' but still, pg-13 can be good too heck even G can be good (finding nemo) I like gore, but not the type your talking about, I really dont belive gore makes a movie intersting, if I want to see gore I can just go to the bronx, now there's some gore!

[Van Helsing]

Here is fresh information taken from Empire(UK)'s October issue :

It refers to footage shown at Comic-Con 2003

...Sommers describes as "the right hand of Devil versus the left hand of God". The dialogue-free reel, with temp music and not a CG shot in sight (ILM will handle the effects), was a treat. Visually stunning and moody ---there were numerous shots of Hugh Jackman's Van Helsing and Kate Beckingsale's Anna, flying through the air, wielding kick-ass weapons, and attending a sumptous ball at Dracula's castle--the clip drew great reaction. And Jackman appears ro have created another iconic hero,dark,brood,ing--the anti-Peter Cushing. "He's the baddest character you'd ever want to come across" said Jackman. "In fact,you don't want to come across him.He kicks so much ass in this movie."

[downflow311]

cant wait for the teaser to come out. this movie is going to really kick some major ass. thanks for the set photos.

[Cipher Jo]

Yeah I can't wait and with news of a show, it's even cooler. Although, a cowboy? Unless it's Third Manish

[The Moose]

do ya know when we will get a trailer?

[Van Helsing]

I wish I know when :confused:

[The Moose]

damn, so no date yet

[Spike2002]

damm, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE OR THE TRAILER!! I hope the trailer comes out soon.

[The Moose]

same here.