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Boone
04-13-2003, 08:57 PM
http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/matrixreloaded/matrixreloaded_6.jpg

http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/XMen2/xmen2_5.jpg

http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/Hulk/hulk_6.jpg

http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/CharliesAngels2/charliesangels_2.jpg

http://movies.go.com/images/photogallery/Terminator3/terminator3_8.jpg

jbailey84
04-13-2003, 09:27 PM
hulk. summer isn't until june 21, so won't marix count as spring though?

raptor5
04-13-2003, 10:44 PM
Is there any question? Matrix Reloaded definetly.

Halofan1
04-13-2003, 11:15 PM
"Hmm, upgrades?"

"That's a nice trick."

"Hiya fellas."

"Mr. Anderson...surprised to see me?"

"What happens if I fail?"
'Then Zion will fall.'

THE LIZZIE MCGUIRE MOVIE!!!!!!!

I mean..THE MATRIX RELOADED!!!!!!

Mat
04-13-2003, 11:27 PM
Those over-rated matrix movies will not beat the hulk.

"HULK SMASH puny flying man"

Halofan1
04-14-2003, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Mat
Those over-rated matrix movies will not beat the hulk.

"HULK SMASH puny flying man"

Yes they will and they aren't overrated. And don't forget contenders like How to Deal and Down With Love.

todd philip
04-14-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Halofan1
"Hmm, upgrades?"



"Hiya fellas."

"Mr. Anderson...surprised to see me?"

did anyone else find these two lines in the matrix trailers hysterical:applaud: :D ;)

DrxLecter
04-14-2003, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Halofan1
And don't forget contenders like How to Deal and Down With Love.

http://www.raceworx.com/funnypics/bwahahah.jpg

captain cocanut
04-14-2003, 01:20 AM
I love that pic....

and if Charlie's Angel 2 makes more than the other movies on that list... I will never go to the movie theaters again.

Doofy Gilmore
04-14-2003, 11:21 AM
"Charlies Angels 2" will make some huge bank. But "T3",
and "The Matrix" will make massive bank. "The Hulk" will bomb.

diasyjazz
04-14-2003, 12:06 PM
Matrix!!!

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0234215/th-CT-2492.jpg

JasonLV
04-14-2003, 12:39 PM
Freddy vs Jason

moviefreak76
04-14-2003, 01:50 PM
With the incredibly awesome last preview just released... I have to say THE MATRIX RELOADED. WOW !!!!! That movie will rock !!!!!

diasyjazz
04-14-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by moviefreak76
With the incredibly awesome last preview just released... I have to say THE MATRIX RELOADED. WOW !!!!! That movie will rock !!!!!

No joking around here...that was UNBELIEVALBE- esp the part in the end with the 'fight' scene between Nero and Agent Smith.....WOW

Maverick
04-14-2003, 02:13 PM
Im thinking it will look something like this:

X men 2
Matrix
Hulk
Terminator
Charlies Angels

The R rating is going to hurt Matrix and Terminator a little, and based on the recent success of the Comic book movies, i think Hulk is going to do better than people think. Charlies Angels is probably going to be an ok movie, but not good enough to top any of those others.

Boone
04-14-2003, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Maverick
Im thinking it will look something like this:

X men 2
Matrix
Hulk
Terminator
Charlies Angels

The R rating is going to hurt Matrix and Terminator a little, and based on the recent success of the Comic book movies, i think Hulk is going to do better than people think. Charlies Angels is probably going to be an ok movie, but not good enough to top any of those others. I'd bet my house & car that T3 will rake in more $$$ than Hulk....easily!

Balrog of Moria
04-14-2003, 04:12 PM
People have been waiting for T3 for so long it will make unbelieveable amounts of money...

teewee1432
04-14-2003, 04:20 PM
all these movies on the list will easily make over 100 million at the box-office but I think between The Matrix and T3 one of these will be the #1 movie of the summer

jbailey84
04-14-2003, 04:59 PM
matrix 2
x-men 2
hulk
terminator 3
charlies angels 2

thats what im thinking

adt100
04-14-2003, 05:16 PM
I think of those listed it will no doubt be tight between Hulk and X-Men 2, but I think Hulk may edge it.

Again I stand firm as 1 of the few people on this board that actually think Matrix will not do as well as anticpiated.

I don't think T3 has the pulling power anymore for some reason, though who knows it could be a dark horse. As for Charlie's Angels - who cares. :p

My bet:

1. Hulk
2. X-Men 2
3. Matrix
4. T3
5. Charlie's Angels

JustinCredible
04-14-2003, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Balrog of Moria
People have been waiting for T3 for so long it will make unbelieveable amounts of money...

This is not the T3 people have been waiting for, its some cheap imitation that has the same name.

Heavenllee
04-14-2003, 06:59 PM
Terminator 3 will be a huge hit IMO. This movie has been a long time in the making and expectations are very high for it.

Boods
04-14-2003, 07:01 PM
matrix and x2 come out before summer but i think it will go something like :

1.matrix reloaded
2.x men 2
3.hulk
4.terminator 3
5.charlies angels 2

i also think those movies will do good this summer :
pirates of the caribbean
league of extraordinary gentlemen
finding nemo

Maverick
04-14-2003, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by JustinCredible
This is not the T3 people have been waiting for, its some cheap imitation that has the same name.

I agree. Unfortunately i think it could end up ruining the rest of the Terminator movies, i really hope it doesnt cause i am a fan of the original terminator movies, but i think it could, because it is not going to be the ending that people think it will be. I really hope im wrong, but thats kinda what i see happening. Ill definitely see the movie, but im going to be kind of wary of it.

Boone
04-14-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by JustinCredible
This is not the T3 people have been waiting for, its some cheap imitation that has the same name. Why do you say this....any proof? :confused:

Knerys
04-14-2003, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by jbailey84
hulk. summer isn't until june 21, so won't marix count as spring though? Heh not in hollywood. As far as they're concerned, the summer begins the first weekend in May.

MovieFreak
04-14-2003, 10:20 PM
Heres what i Think....

1)Matrix:Reloaded
2)Terminator 3:Rise of the Machines
3)The Hulk
4)X men 2
5)Charlies Angels 2

rialynch
04-15-2003, 01:55 PM
I totally believe that the Matrix will blow off any other competition. That said, I think that there might be a few surprises this summer...

Hitman
04-15-2003, 04:22 PM
The Matrix Reloaded will slaughter EVERY movie at the Box Office. That's fact. Just be sure to get an advance ticket. ;)

jbailey84
04-15-2003, 05:00 PM
what does IMO stand for?

Knerys
04-15-2003, 05:08 PM
In my opinion.

adt100
04-15-2003, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Hitman
The Matrix Reloaded will slaughter EVERY movie at the Box Office. That's fact. Just be sure to get an advance ticket. ;)

Hitman, rialynch and others, I'll await you eating your respective hats coming Autumn 2003. :D

Boone
04-15-2003, 09:20 PM
1) T3
2) Matrix 2
3) X2
4) Charlie's Angels 2
5) Hulk

EDouglas
04-15-2003, 10:38 PM
Okay, well then I'll go with Matrix Reloaded.

BlakeAE77
04-15-2003, 10:51 PM
1. X2: X-Men United
2. The Matrix Reloaded
3. Hulk
4. T3: Rise of the Machines
5. Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle

And I also think that Pirates of the Carribean will do great.

Mat
04-15-2003, 10:55 PM
I'm still putting my money on the hulk. You gotta give the big green guy some love. :D

BTW, I think POTC will beat Charlie's Angels2. Just another prediction I got out of the crystal ball...

Boone
04-15-2003, 10:58 PM
What about Tomb Raider 2? I almost forgot...I doubt it will make top 5...

Doofy Gilmore
04-16-2003, 10:17 AM
Alot of yall are forgetting about "Bad Boys 2". Will Smith is always a huge box office draw. and This film was one of the best action films of the 90s. So people will be flocking to the cinemas for the sequel.

Doofy Gilmore
04-16-2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Mat
[BBTW, I think POTC will beat Charlie's Angels2. Just another prediction I got out of the crystal ball... [/B]


'POTC" may have a larger opening weekend by a small margin. But "Charlies Angels 2" will make more money overall and in the long run.

TyRoss
04-16-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Hitman
The Matrix Reloaded will slaughter EVERY movie at the Box Office. That's fact. Just be sure to get an advance ticket. ;)

Far from it. Reloadeds R rating could hurt it a lot. And don't underestimate thte drawing power of the big Green Guy (or the mutants for that matter). Personally I estimate matrix at about $250 mil tops.

Frizzo the Clown
04-16-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by TyRoss
Far from it. Reloadeds R rating could hurt it a lot. And don't underestimate thte drawing power of the big Green Guy (or the mutants for that matter). Personally I estimate matrix at about $250 mil tops. Thats right. Afterall, an "R" rating means a smaller audience at the theatre.

TyRoss
04-16-2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Frizzo the Clown
Thats right. Afterall, an "R" rating means a smaller audience at the theatre.

Including the all important "teens that have nothing better to do" audience.

Frizzo the Clown
04-16-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by TyRoss
Including the all important "teens that have nothing better to do" audience. So basically....all teens then?;)

TyRoss
04-16-2003, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Frizzo the Clown
So basically....all teens then?;)

Well the ones under 19 anyways... although thats right the US doesn't let you drink until 21..... so yeah

Cipher Jo
04-16-2003, 11:40 AM
I agree with Boods projection.

diasyjazz
04-16-2003, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Boods
i also think those movies will do good this summer :
pirates of the caribbean
league of extraordinary gentlemen
finding nemo

I agree...definately think that Nemo has a chance to be up there as one of the big summer hits- the trailer looks funny and the animation looks great. see this thread (http://www.comingsoon.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12109) for pics -anything Pixar is bound to do extremly well

as for the top couple for the summer...for me definately wither matrix or x-men 2

TheBatman_9
04-16-2003, 03:29 PM
here is my two cents:

1. THE MARTIX RELOADED- $300 million
2. THE HULK- $225 million
3. BAD BOYS II- $205 million

TheBatman_9
04-16-2003, 03:30 PM
here is my two cents:

1. THE MARTIX RELOADED- $300 million
2. THE HULK- $225 million
3. BAD BOYS II- $205 million
4. X-MEN 2- $185 million
5. TERMINATOR 3- $160 million

Fanible
04-16-2003, 05:46 PM
The topic is wondering what you think will be the biggest blockbuster hit of the summer, not what movie are you looking forward to most.

And if you think any movie besides Matrix is going to be bigger, you are seriously deluded. Not even the rating R will keep this huge mother franchise down.

X-Men 2 will come close i think. The Hulk will not come over X-Men or the Matrix.

Im uncertain about Terminator 3. It's also a huge sequel, but its had serious mixed opinions about it's release.

Anyways, im seeing everyone of these movies first day.

Cipher Jo
04-16-2003, 06:24 PM
See you at the movies!

tedward
04-17-2003, 10:00 AM
Terminator 3 may or may not be the best movie of the lot but it will make more money than any of the others there. I tip charlies angels for the no2 spot.

Kris Hodgson
04-17-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by tedward
Terminator 3 may or may not be the best movie of the lot but it will make more money than any of the others there. I tip charlies angels for the no2 spot.

I predict that those two will make the least out of the choices.

tedward
04-17-2003, 10:14 AM
opinion noted

Kris Hodgson
04-17-2003, 10:16 AM
Thank you for noting.

Fanible
04-17-2003, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by tedward
I tip charlies angels for the no2 spot.

Buah ha ha ha. :funny:

Sorry. Did I say ill be seeing everyone of these the first day release? Well I didn't mean on the list that was on the poll, I ment the ones I mentioned.

I won't be seeing Charlie's Angels 2 for awhile. And unless it gets some seriously great reviews, I'll be waiting for it on DVD.

NeoVsYoda
04-17-2003, 10:39 AM
Clear as daylight.

With the amount of hype it has been getting since the idea was brought to the attention of the public, Plus look at how the advertising and trailers have been cleverly put all across the world and the animatrix........... plus the game coming out on the same day as the release and Dreamcatcher with Final flight of Osiris............. Warner brothers are expecting HUGE TURNOVER, they have put so much into it........... A clear winner.........Matrix Reloaded.

1:Matrix Reloaded
2:X-men 2
3:T-3
4:Hulk
5:Charlies Angels 2

(So long as T3 gets more publicity than it is getting and there may be a surprise with bad boys 2)

:eek:

George Bushs 18th cousin
04-17-2003, 10:40 AM
I think people overestimate the draw of The Matrix. It's R-Rated and kids make up a big portion of movies income (look at Spider-Man)...so I'm gonna go with The Hulk.

BROKEN BOY BLUE
04-17-2003, 10:42 AM
X-2 all the way.

tedward
04-17-2003, 10:48 AM
I would like to make a retraction I cant see charlies angels, cameron diaz or no cameron diaz, making more money than the matrix etc. I was just fresh from reading a silly story on how chick flicks now rule the roost.

In betting fields the form is all important. From IMD highest grossing films of all time international figures.

149 Charlie's Angels (2000) $258,500,000
118 X-Men (2000) $294,100,000
32 Matrix, The (1999) $456,300,000
25 Terminator 2 (1991) $516,800,000

No figures for the hulk, obviously.

So i still think t3 will top the list and just forget I mentioned charlies angels.

It does look like being the best summer of blockbusters for a long time.

adt100
04-17-2003, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by Fanible
And if you think any movie besides Matrix is going to be bigger, you are seriously deluded. Not even the rating R will keep this huge mother franchise down.


I'm sticking by my assertion that the exact opposite is true.

Past form is always a good indicator, and the following stats should at least give some indication of the way things could turn out.

Spider-Man (2002) $806,700,000
Men in Black (1997) $587,200,000
Mission: Impossible II (2000) $545,300,000
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) $516,800,000
Matrix, The (1999) $456,300,000
X-Men (2000) $294,100,000
Charlie's Angels (2000) $258,500,000

I expect X-Men 2 to do considerably better than X-Men did, as from all reports it's a better film and there'll no doubt be a huge marketting blitz for it. I also predict Matrix 2/3 will do better than the Matrix, but I doubt very much that either will total much more than around $550m.

tedward
04-17-2003, 11:15 AM
Dont forget spiderman made all that money in what was really a rather weak summer - it was either that or starwars.

Release schedule.

x2: may 2nd
matrix reloaded: may 15
the hulk: june 20th
charlies angels: june 27th
t3: july 2nd.

from http://www.pazsaz.com/coming.html

captain cocanut
04-17-2003, 01:08 PM
this might be the best summer for movies EVER IMO

JasonLV
04-17-2003, 02:00 PM
What about Freddy vs Jason? People have been waiting for this since the 80's. I think this will be a big hit. I mean it's Freddy Krugger in one corner and Jason Voorhees in the other. Expect this one to be up there in the top 5 for the biggest movies this year

MovieFreak89
04-19-2003, 02:06 AM
My Bet:
1. T3
2.Matrix Reloaded
3.X-Men 2
4.Hulk
5.Charlies Angels.

I saw the inernational trailer for T3 and it's phenomenal. People have no idea. Plus, Kristina Loken's but!

MovieFreak89
04-19-2003, 02:09 AM
Originally posted by JasonLV
What about Freddy vs Jason? People have been waiting for this since the 80's. I think this will be a big hit. I mean it's Freddy Krugger in one corner and Jason Voorhees in the other. Expect this one to be up there in the top 5 for the biggest movies this year

Ahem, viewing over the chessyness of the past 10 friday's and 7 nightmares, oh who am I kidding i'll just say it, no:rolleyes:

Boone
04-19-2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by MovieFreak89
My Bet:
1. T3
2.Matrix Reloaded
3.X-Men 2
4.Hulk
5.Charlies Angels.

I saw the inernational trailer for T3 and it's phenomenal. People have no idea. Plus, Kristina Loken's but! I agree!

evilsquishy
04-19-2003, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by raptor5
Is there any question? Matrix Reloaded definetly.
Actually I believe there is!:p
I'd have to go w/ X-men 2 though. I could go into reasons why, but I'm sure none of you want to hear them!;)

necronon99
04-19-2003, 04:37 PM
All those films look fun but The Matrix owns us all.

evenstar
04-19-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by diasyjazz
No joking around here...that was UNBELIEVALBE- esp the part in the end with the 'fight' scene between Nero and Agent Smith.....WOW

no kidding, saw the trailer at the cinema the other night, after it was shown there wasnt even the sound of munching popcorn, the whole cinema went quiet... cant wait...
Xmen out on may 1st too :)

Blueman
04-19-2003, 08:30 PM
i seee hulk making huge numbers, and x2 and matrix reloaded taking the summer blockbuster

charlier angles 2 will get alot of attention sincethe first one was really good(i liked it my self)

i see t3 bombing it just to me doesnt look good and the trailers look sub par its to bad i wished terminator would end on a good note

Hitman
04-20-2003, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by TyRoss
Far from it. Reloadeds R rating could hurt it a lot. And don't underestimate thte drawing power of the big Green Guy (or the mutants for that matter). Personally I estimate matrix at about $250 mil tops.

Keyword being could. You have to remember that Reloaded has many great things going for it. 1) It has a strong and dedicated fanbase. 2) Many people have been awaiting 4 years for Reloaded. 3) The trailer and tv spots are amazing/jaw- dropping so you KNOW people will flock to the theaters on opening weekend and so on. 5) It's a sequel. People LOVE sequels. 6) The action and special effects are so superb that they can/will even draw "strangers" to the film. I can garuntee you that Reloaded will break the box office record for the highest R- rated opening in theater history. It just has more positives than negatives. Despite it's R rating, this movie will make some HUGE bank. The 1st Matrix brought in over $170 million in North America. Best believe that most of the people who contributed to that sum (including me) will go see the sequel.

tedward
04-20-2003, 04:11 PM
Reloadeds R rating could hurt it a lot.

The first two terminator films were 'Rs' and look what they did. T3 may or may not be an R.

I think it is only a two horse race this summer, for sure, between the matrix and T3. They are a league above the rest.

Brock Landers
04-20-2003, 04:17 PM
THE MATRIX RELOADED

No doubt in my mind.

Blueman
04-20-2003, 04:47 PM
dont forget about 2 fats 2 furious it may be missing van diesle but its a incredibly popular film with teens(like me,since the first kicked ass)so i see that making big numbers

i agrre on who ever said this could be the biggest summer for movies in a long time i mean just looka t some of the movies coming out

x2
matrix:reloaded
hulk
charlie angles
2 fast 2furious
t3
tomb raider
pirates of the carribean

Hitman
04-20-2003, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by Brock Landers
THE MATRIX RELOADED

No doubt in my mind.

LMFAO, nice avatar! :applaud:

adt100
04-20-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Hitman
Best believe that most of the people who contributed to that sum (including me) will go see the sequel.

It will need a hell of a lot more than just 'most' to make Matrix the runaway box office winner. It will need around hafl as many people again to go and see it.

Hitman
04-20-2003, 09:09 PM
^ Last time I checked, "most" accounts for more than half. Write that down. ;)

DeRabbitHole113
04-20-2003, 10:14 PM
T2 was an amazing movie and if you've seen it (like me) then you'll know T3 would be worth a look

Brock Landers
04-21-2003, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Hitman
LMFAO, nice avatar! :applaud:

Why thank you. My avatar is like the avatar version of an Eminem lyric

;)

necronon99
04-21-2003, 01:14 AM
Matrix will kill all

adt100
04-21-2003, 08:33 AM
Originally posted by Hitman
^ Last time I checked, "most" accounts for more than half. Write that down. ;)

Hmmm, I think you didn't quite understand my post there.

Half as many again, meaning 150%.

Hitman
04-21-2003, 12:52 PM
^ Yeah but 150 of what? If you're talking about the box office earnings of the original ($170 million) than the right answer would be $85 million (half). It's a sure bet that Reloaded will at least open up with 85 mil. So whatever it is that you're trying to say, I'm sure Reloaded's BO earnings will end it.

tedward
04-21-2003, 02:51 PM
???

adt100
04-21-2003, 05:21 PM
Right, I'll try to be more clear.

To make Matrix the runaway box office winner (given the opposition this summer) I expect it will need to gain a box office of up to $700m (worldwide). As the original earned $456m I estimate that around half as many people will need to go and see the sequel again in order to make that figure.

In other words, 150% of $456m is around $684m. :)

Hitman
04-21-2003, 08:14 PM
Alright, I see what you're getting at. Thanks for clearing that up. Btw, are you going to see it?

Brock Landers
04-21-2003, 10:11 PM
I'm seeing it tommorow. Oh the wonders of the internet

cc_man90T3
04-22-2003, 10:57 PM
The Matrix was a great show...But.. Reloaded is the most over rated peice of crap from what i have seen... sure it looks good, i am going to see it... but.. July 2nd Terminator 3 will absolutly Anialiate the box office. There will be no movie to stand in its way, the matix will be left with the croud... In this movie their is a 17 minute action scene which cost more money then the whole first matrix movie. This will be a masterpiece... Take a look at the new international trailer, im not tryong to bash the matrix here.. i am just trying to get my point accross that it will not beat T-3. Just look back to t2 over 500,000 in the box office and that was back in 1991, the matrix only acchieved 400,000 something if i can remmeber and that was a couple years ago. Now in 2003 t3 has the biggest budget in a movie ever 170 million dollars

Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines is going to take away competition at the movies.... i am tired of everybody bashing it, bash all u want but when it hits theaters, you will see what we have been talking about this whole time.

cc_man90T3
04-22-2003, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by adt100
Right, I'll try to be more clear.

To make Matrix the runaway box office winner (given the opposition this summer) I expect it will need to gain a box office of up to $700m (worldwide). As the original earned $456m I estimate that around half as many people will need to go and see the sequel again in order to make that figure.

In other words, 150% of $456m is around $684m. :)

Teminator 2 brought in 550 million in 1991... I think this movie could bring in over 800 million.
July 2nd could be the biggest movie opening in history.

TyRoss
04-22-2003, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by Hitman
The 1st Matrix brought in over $170 million in North America. Best believe that most of the people who contributed to that sum (including me) will go see the sequel.

Well $170 mil isn't exactly enough to make it the big summer grosser. Yes it's gross should improve due to people becoming fans after Video release but still expect Matrix to top off around $250 mil. Hulk T3 and X2 (although X2 slightly less likely) all have $300 mil potential.

Boone
04-22-2003, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by cc_man90T3
The Matrix was a great show...But.. Reloaded is the most over rated peice of crap from what i have seen... sure it looks good, i am going to see it... but.. July 2nd Terminator 3 will absolutly Anialiate the box office. There will be no movie to stand in its way, the matix will be left with the croud... In this movie their is a 17 minute action scene which cost more money then the whole first matrix movie. This will be a masterpiece... Take a look at the new international trailer, im not tryong to bash the matrix here.. i am just trying to get my point accross that it will not beat T-3. Just look back to t2 over 500,000 in the box office and that was back in 1991, the matrix only acchieved 400,000 something if i can remmeber and that was a couple years ago. Now in 2003 t3 has the biggest budget in a movie ever 170 million dollars

Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines is going to take away competition at the movies.... i am tired of everybody bashing it, bash all u want but when it hits theaters, you will see what we have been talking about this whole time. Now that's what I'm talkin' about!
:applaud:

Kyp
04-23-2003, 12:43 AM
Okay, so T3 has a $170 Million Dollar budget. Sure.

Both Matrix Sequels have costed AT LEAST $300 Million. Even if you're going with that number, that's $150 Million each. The actual cost is probably more, there's been no official statement of the actual cost of the 2 movies.

T3 has a 17 minute action sequence that costed more than the first Matrix, while I do have serious trouble believing this, I'll give it to you.

The Matrix sequels have special effects sequences which have had so much time and money put into them that they are supposed to be UNREPEATABLE, at least until more technology is invented. They spent $3 million alone just to build the highway for one sequence. This does not involve everything else that went on with this scene, that is just the ROAD THE CARS DRIVE ON AS THEY GET CRUSHED.

I can't remember the car manufacturer, I think it was Cadilac... they donated 300 brand new cars to the Matrix. Guess how many of those are still in existance today? 0!!!

Don't try and say that T3 will have any better actions scenes or special effects than The Matrix sequels. They won't. Period. I'm willing to bet quite a lot that the story behind The Matrix sequels will be much better than T3s as well.

I still haven't entirely made up my mind on T3. It could go either way, from being a good movie to being extremely lame. I can't see it as anything better than just a good movie though. The Matrix sequels will be unbelievable.

Edit: I just remembered, that estimate of $300 million for the 2 movies is just what the portion of the movies costed that were filmed in Australia. There was much more filmed in California, including that highway sequence I mentioned. It's very much so presumable that the total cost of the 2 movies was $350 million or more, meaning that each movie would have a budget greater than T3s.

Edit#2: After reading your post again, you also mention that T2 made more money than The Matrix... T2 was a sequel. OF COURSE IT WILL MAKE MONEY. The Matrix was something that was confusing to a lot of people through the trailers, and that stopped them from seeing it. Now that everyone understands it all, I'm sure there will be a lot more people that catch it in theatre.

T2 was a sequel to a good movie, and it made good money. The Matrix Reloaded is a sequel to a better movie, and it will make better money. Simple as that.

ILOVEKATIE
04-23-2003, 01:03 AM
Forget The Matrix and T3, the blockbuster hit will be Pirates of the Caribbean!!!!!!
Anyway, I'm looking forward to all of them, but the real champ will come on December 17th, The Return of the King baby!

Brock Landers
04-23-2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by ILOVEKATIE

Anyway, I'm looking forward to all of them, but the real champ will come on December 17th, The Return of the King baby!

WORD!!!

**high fives katie**

;)

TheBatman_9
04-23-2003, 03:36 PM
in the words of keanu, "whoa." okay everyone has their own opions here but really...THE MATRIX was better than THE TERMINATOR? that just seems ridiculous to me. sure it was a great film and will probably have even better sequels...but as far as action films go...there is no substitute for T1 AND T2, except for maybe T3!

Kyp
04-23-2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by TheBatman_9
in the words of keanu, "whoa." okay everyone has their own opions here but really...THE MATRIX was better than THE TERMINATOR? that just seems ridiculous to me. sure it was a great film and will probably have even better sequels...but as far as action films go...there is no substitute for T1 AND T2, except for maybe T3!

An opinion is an opinion. Mine is that The Matrix was better than Terminator, yours is the opposite. Terminator 2 was a much better movie than Terminator, in my opinion, and it is ALMOST as good as The Matrix. There's many others out there who share my opinion too, I know.

Hitman
04-23-2003, 10:04 PM
I believe I'm one of those people. ;) :cool:

Mat
04-23-2003, 10:55 PM
T2 is much better than the matrix. T3 will suck though. :(

cc_man90T3
04-23-2003, 11:36 PM
Terminator 3 has a way bigger budget then the matrix.. T3 has the higest film budget ever aprooed 170 million dollars. Arnold will be the highest paid actor, 30 million. And Mostov the highest paid director 5 Million... There is no way the matrix was more then Termiantor because WB said at a press conference that a 17 minute action faze cost them more then the entire first Matrix movie.. T3 also has over 800 CGI shots which could still exeed the matrix.. Look at the new trailer trailer.
I can see it people will be soo hyped about seeing the Matrix they will go and see it and come out saying how ****ty it was and how they cant wait to see T3 because of the new kickass trailer that will be shown with it.

Kyp
04-24-2003, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by cc_man90T3
Terminator 3 has a way bigger budget then the matrix.. T3 has the higest film budget ever aprooed 170 million dollars. Arnold will be the highest paid actor, 30 million. And Mostov the highest paid director 5 Million... There is no way the matrix was more then Termiantor because WB said at a press conference that a 17 minute action faze cost them more then the entire first Matrix movie.. T3 also has over 800 CGI shots which could still exeed the matrix.. Look at the new trailer trailer.
I can see it people will be soo hyped about seeing the Matrix they will go and see it and come out saying how ****ty it was and how they cant wait to see T3 because of the new kickass trailer that will be shown with it.


I already commented on your talk of the budget. They also just posted it on the main page that it cost at least $300 million + $100 million marketing costs. So just shut up on that. There's nothing to talk about there. (Also, I think Jack Nicholson got more money than that for playing The Joker in Batman)

And then, you'll wake up from your dream, realize that you are a delusional overweight movie freak, and spend a week in the gym and give up on it because you're too lazy.

I have no doubt in my mind that The Matrix Reloaded will hand T3 it's own... rear end on a nice silver platter.

ILOVEKATIE
04-24-2003, 03:32 AM
damnnnnnn

tedward
04-24-2003, 05:07 AM
Anyway, I'm looking forward to all of them, but the real champ will come on December 17th, The Return of the King baby!


WORD!!!

I so hope either the matrix or t3 out gross return of the king (coz i cant stand lotr) but I dont see it happening saddly.

WORD TO YOUR MOTHER!!!! ice ice baby...

Parrish
04-24-2003, 07:10 AM
The Matrix Will Destory

MovieFreak89
04-24-2003, 10:49 AM
LET ME SAY THIS MUCH WITHOUT ANYONE GETTING PIST OFF:
T3 has been long awaited over ten years. Millions of adults and children will run to see it. It is now like the Star Wars saga. Everyone wants to see it.

Matrix was good, no deining that, but people can wait for it to go out on video. And th trailer makes Reloaded look like its gonna be all fighting, no real good story, and it's gonna have these cheesy lines like

Mr. Anderson,etc.

I am the one-In my mind he is ted esquire.

Neo I love you, etc

i am morpheous, the only reason why I seem so cool is cause these clothes and my voice.

Oh wait, that last one............

T3 will break records, Matrix 2 will, but it will be T3's mini me, aka one eight of it's size

OzzMosiz
04-24-2003, 11:19 AM
I must admit the most recent T3 trailer looks like the dogs bollocks. I think Matrix will take it this year, but T3 will do good. Also X2 will do well, not too sure of Hulk - I'm going to see all of them though!!!

tedward
04-24-2003, 01:56 PM
T3 has been long awaited over ten years. Millions of adults and children will run to see it. It is now like the Star Wars saga. Everyone wants to see it.

True, this is the first one I'll be old enough to see in the movies, hence I am realy looking forward to it.


I have also just watched the matrix on dvd for the first time in anticipation of the sequal and I thought it was a let down its good but not great (In my opinion. :) )

So I still back terminator to top the ratings.

necronon99
04-24-2003, 04:41 PM
Matrix will cause riots

cc_man90T3
04-24-2003, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Kyp
I already commented on your talk of the budget. They also just posted it on the main page that it cost at least $300 million + $100 million marketing costs. So just shut up on that. There's nothing to talk about there. (Also, I think Jack Nicholson got more money than that for playing The Joker in Batman)

And then, you'll wake up from your dream, realize that you are a delusional overweight movie freak, and spend a week in the gym and give up on it because you're too lazy.

I have no doubt in my mind that The Matrix Reloaded will hand T3 it's own... rear end on a nice silver platter.

Hey Chillout D1ck wad... im an over weight movie freak you got me... you have no idea how much T3 will kickass... and you have never met me im 25 and the CEO of California Shutter Corp, and i dont need to goto the gym. I am physically fit.. and I am not a movie freak im just tried of *******s like you basing movies you havent seen... all i have to say is IMO Reloaded is overrated END OF STORY

cc_man90T3
04-24-2003, 05:05 PM
You couldnt have said it better... the Matrix is just going to be a money grabber, with all their cheesie lines and non-stop fighting.
T3 has a solid plot to it and actauly has to do with something. T3 is one of the most antisapated movies of the year...
The Only reason ppl are so happy about the matrix is becuase it comes out soon May 15th, and everybody has seen all the trailers and basically everything is already released about the movie before it hits theaters.
Where as T3 comes out July 2nd and WB isnt advertising to much for it becuase it is focussing on making money for the matrix right now..once the matrix is released Wb will release T3 mayhem that will get people so hyped up for T3 that they will forgot all about Reloaded and revolutions.
In other words they are in a win win situations with 2 box office smash hits, all they are doing is playing it right by leaving T3 in the shaddows and giving the matrix the spotlight... But once May 15th hits be prepared Matrix fans for non stop T3. T3 already has a new trailer attached to the movie.

Hitman
04-24-2003, 06:56 PM
After seeing the latest trailer (UK) for Terminator 3: Rise Of The Machines, I have now realized that this movie is still going to suck.

p.s. 2003 is The Year Of The Matrix......boyeeeee!

cc_man90T3
04-24-2003, 07:05 PM
The Matrix will be good... get lots of money...
But T3 will be bigger and better.

Hitman
04-24-2003, 07:47 PM
^ Pssshhh yeah......and I'm bangin Mila Kunis. :rolleyes:

Kyp
04-24-2003, 09:01 PM
cc_man90T3, it was just a joke man.

Besides that, I know absolutly no one (in person) that has even mentioned T3. They are all googling over The Matrix Reloaded. From my point of view, there are far more people who are much more interested in The Matrix than T3. I believe it will do much better than T3. I also believe that the story will be much better, but that's just my assumption. You haven't seen the movies either, so you can't say anymore than I can, and yet you keep on saying that The Matrix will suck and T3 will be the best. You have no evidence behind this, and in my opinion the T3 trailers have worse dialogue and action than the ones show in The Matrix trailers (Example - "She'll be back.") The Matrix dialogue is no where near that bad.

Besides that, I think most people will be more interested in the action scenes in The Matrix because it won't just be brute against brute. Can you say "Kung fu?" T3 will just be Arnie with big guns running around and hitting people again. I think we've alread seen that many times.

People have been waiting 10 years for T3, but over that space of time they've near forgotten about it. People have been waiting 4 years for The Matrix sequels, and they're still on their mind and will be much more willing to see them.

DeRabbitHole113
04-24-2003, 10:46 PM
quote:
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T3 has been long awaited over ten years. Millions of adults and children will run to see it. It is now like the Star Wars saga. Everyone wants to see it.
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Its true in one of my classes the teacher had a list of all the big upcoming movies coming out this year but Terminator 3 wasnt on the list. So when i told her about it she got so excited she had no idea. Any person that has really seen T2 will have to give T3 a look.

DeRabbitHole113
04-24-2003, 11:07 PM
WB is trying to play it smart they don't really care about which film does better all they know is that Terminator 3 and the Matrix Reloaded are going to be huge money makers and they want to space out the movies in a way they can earn the most money. IMO I think Terminator 3 will be a bigger money maker because after people see the new T3 trailer at the Matrix Reloaded that will most likely be the next film they'd want to see( including me). WB is not stupid they know that alot of people are going to see The Matrix Reloaded so you can bet that the T3 trailer they show is going to be good.

DeRabbitHole113
04-24-2003, 11:14 PM
And when they release that new trailer that should raise the hype about T3. IMO in order for T3 to do well WB must be able to get alot of people to see T2 because a lot of my friends i've asked haven't even seen the movie. The only reason i've seen it is because ever since I was little my dad had the movie on tape and that was my favorite movie.

cc_man90T3
04-24-2003, 11:39 PM
KYB, Dont worry about, I'm probally looking as forward to the Matrix as you are I have been waiting on it for a while, will have advanced tickets and see it on opening night. I'm just trying to say that I think it is Over-rated, and T3 isnt getting the respect it deserves, both movies will do extremly well, but IMO T3 will make alot more do to the series extreme popularity. Not to many people know about T3 yet as advertising for it has been at a minimum, as the Matrix is in the spotlight. But once the matrix is out, it will be back to T3, and i Guarentee that a brand new revolutions trailer will come alongside the release of t3 to get people hyped for it. Its all for money!!!!

Hitman
04-24-2003, 11:51 PM
What do you mean The Matrix is "Over- rated"? If that's the case than wouldn't every other major franchise (LOTR, X- Men, Terminator, etc.) be Over- rated? Really, who cares if anything is Over- rated these days. We're not making any of that "Over- rated" money anyway.

Kyp
04-25-2003, 01:13 AM
The Revolutinos Trailer is debuting at the end of the The Matrix Reloaded. There will be no gap inbetween the two movies for lack-of-hype ;)

ILOVEKATIE
04-25-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by tedward
WORD TO YOUR MOTHER!!!! ice ice baby...
whats up with that?:rolleyes:

tedward
04-25-2003, 06:14 AM
I couldnt help myself.

MovieFreak89
04-25-2003, 10:33 AM
The Matrix was a good movie. I loved it when I saw the first 30 minutes of it, and I had to go somewhere, I rented it. The first time I saw T2, my mom tried to get me to go to the park, I threw a fit, and wouldn't let her take me away from my movie. The Terminator will make more money than Matrix 2, why? Because I haven't met one movie fan who said T2 sucked, but I've met a few who say Matrix blows ass. I like the Matrix, I LOVE T2. Let's all go to the movies, and watch how many people show up to Matrix 2 and really how many show up for T3. That's the truth. Now some of yopu don't want to accept it, so in the words of Jack Nicholoson"YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"

Parrish
04-26-2003, 10:23 AM
Aint Freddy Vs Jason Coming out this summer because that will be the hit

captain cocanut
04-27-2003, 03:55 AM
T3 will rule all... I'm not too excited about the Matrix reloaded.

tedward
04-27-2003, 06:51 AM
If I could only see one of these movies I would see T3.

PsYkOoOoO
04-27-2003, 08:20 AM
MATRIX RELOADED~!!whoever voted for charlie's angels..

Boone
04-27-2003, 03:26 PM
I didn't mean for this to turn out to be T3 versus Matrix2...

But I will say this is going to be an AWESOME year for movies...wouldn't you agree?

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

Hitman
04-27-2003, 03:36 PM
Yes, this will be an amazing time for movies. Minus The Lizzie McGuire Movie. Anyway, about the whole T3 vs Matrix Reloaded, I think the poll above says it all. Most of us know Reloaded is gonna crush at the box office. :cool:

Luke
04-30-2003, 02:19 AM
I can't wait for Xmen 2 it's gonna be great. I hope it's better than the fist one.

3eb
04-30-2003, 11:12 AM
Matrix will probably get the most money but I feel T3 will be a better film. Seems to be much more of an epic...

Matrix's major overhype will eventually do it damage.

JAE
04-30-2003, 12:15 PM
The Matrix is going to break some records this summer.

crom
04-30-2003, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by JAE
The Matrix is going to break some records this summer.

Totally Agree, I think it will be as follows.

Matrix Reloaded
Terminator 3
x2
Hulk

As far as gross.

ILOVEKATIE
04-30-2003, 01:51 PM
The Hulk is going to be awesome, Ang Lee is a great director.

crom
04-30-2003, 02:06 PM
You obviously have not seen Ride with the Devil!!! I agree though Ang Lee is a good Director, even though RWTD sucked tremendously.

ILOVEKATIE
04-30-2003, 02:09 PM
eek, he directed that? I had no idea, oh well we are human and we all make mistakes. ;)

MovieFreak89
05-01-2003, 10:07 AM
He's Back, they're kicking cgi agents ass, if you wanna shoot him shoot him, they make hulk angry, and they replaced Mr. Bill Murray with Bernie Mac.(GOD I HATE THEM!)

cdefreese
05-02-2003, 03:26 PM
They each will have their own draw.

All will draw the action flick lovers.

Xmen and Hulk will draw the comic bookers. Bascially Marvel vs. DC.

T3 has a history dating back to the 80's.

The Matrix will draw the Techies.

and Charlie's Angels the chicks.

What will separate all of them will be the ones that can bring back the audience to watch a second and third time, a well written story line, and timing of the release date.

My vote goes to the Matrix and T3.

necronon99
05-03-2003, 12:06 AM
Matrix will win

Hitman
05-03-2003, 12:52 AM
Correction, Matrix will own. :applaud:

runfromagents
05-04-2003, 02:54 AM
This discussion is about Worldwide Box offices right? If so then it're really only a competition between X2 (opening in 93 countries) and Matrix Reloaded. Im a huge matrix fan, but Ive read the reviews for it, and it doesnt look good. It has the best actions scenes ever, but supposedly has a very bad plot. Hit www.aintitcool.com to read them. If this is true then the matrix won't be able to touch X2, and T3.

future director
05-04-2003, 04:58 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doofy Gilmore
"Charlies Angels 2" will make some huge bank. But "T3",
and "The Matrix" will make massive bank. "The Hulk" will bomb. [/QU I would never take a stock tip or a movie suggestion from this person... ever..........

future director
05-04-2003, 05:01 AM
damn i forgot to state my pick.. well i think it will go like this.... if the matrix doesnt take the number one spot the next in line is THE HULK without a doubt... you shoulda heard the applause the new trailer got when i went to see x2... it was bigger then the matrix reloaded trailer applause.....

Boods
05-04-2003, 05:42 AM
x2 is out and breaking some records ... actually its gonna break records which are gonna be rebroken by reloaded ...
i saw x2 twice already and i think its amazing ...
i feel reloaded is gonna be outstanding but T3 and HULK have a fifty percent chance of being crap ...
reloaded will be amazing while hulk and t3 could be amazing but could also be crap ...

i am gonna watch them all anyway ...

some other summer blockbusters will be :
bruce almighty (the trailer is cool and jim carrey is sooo funny)
finding nemo (any pixar is amazing and it looks really funny)
2 fast 2 furious (the trailer is cool and it looks mad)
pirates of the caribbean (gonna be great for sure)
the league of extraordinary gentlemen (gonna be great for sure)
S.W.A.T (the teaser rules, great action flick i feel)
bad boys 2 (if its better then the first then it will rock)
american wedding (funniest teaser ever)
jeepers creepers 2 (scary !!)
hollywood homicide (has great actors)
tomb raider 2 (lots of action even though no story)
the italian job (great actors and cool trailer)
legally blonde 2 (funny even though stupid)
down with love (trailer looked funny and a bit weird i thought)

well those r just the movies i wanna see this summer .. quite a few ... xmen2 was the first one of the list and it was amazing .. i hope it continues like that (even though i fear at least half the movies i listed wont be really good) lol :)

Doofy Gilmore
05-05-2003, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by MovieFreak89
He's Back, they're kicking cgi agents ass, if you wanna shoot him shoot him, they make hulk angry, and they replaced Mr. Bill Murray with Bernie Mac.(GOD I HATE THEM!)


You can blame Lucy Liu for that. Still I think Bernies a good replacement. I'd rather see a replacement Bosley, than a replacement angel.

tedward
05-05-2003, 03:43 PM
I'd rather see a replacement Bosley, than a replacement angel The replacement angel worked for the tv series -imo she was the cutest. :D

Whats lucy liu ment to have done?

Doofy Gilmore
05-06-2003, 11:42 AM
Supposedly, she was a mega ***** on the set. Towards Bill Murray in particular. It was rumored that they had daily verbal fights on the set. When asked to do the sequel, Murray reportedly wouldn't come back if Lucy Liu was gonna be in the sequel.

Kris Hodgson
05-06-2003, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Boods
x2 is out and breaking some records ... actually its gonna break records which are gonna be rebroken by reloaded ...


There's no way that Reloaded will out do X2. The R rating has more of an impact than alot of you all think. It severly limits the audience. ANYBODY can go see X2, but not everybody can see Reloaded. And a reminder to you young ones. If you buy a ticket to something else and sneak into Reloaded, that doesn't count as part of Reloaded's gross.

Rabbit
05-06-2003, 09:13 PM
All of them I will see (I've already seen X2 and have tickets for Reloaded), but the #1 will be Matrix Reloaded

JasonLV
05-06-2003, 09:53 PM
First off the Matrix looks more fake than the Hulk. Look at the scene when Neo is on that pole swinging around fighting all those guys. I really think Freddy vs Jason will be the sleeper hit this year here is my list of the top 5

Freddy vs Jason
The Hulk
X2
T3
Matrix Reloaded

cc_man90T3
05-06-2003, 10:53 PM
I recent article in the Toronto Star reported that that Joel Silver said that he knows his movie wont even come close to breaking X2 opening record. As well he is quoted saying that Hannibal the biggest opening R movie wont have to worry becuase the matrix cannot test with their opening grosse of 58 Million.

With all the NEGATVIE reviews it looks like he is starting to doubt his movie.

I now change my list to
1. T3
2. X2
3.Matrix

tedward
05-07-2003, 04:29 AM
My thinking is starting to go along with yours too cc-man.

JasonLV
05-07-2003, 06:25 PM
Forget all this Matrix bull. it's lame

Hitman
05-07-2003, 08:24 PM
^ I want to say something intelligent but not with this sorry post.

Looky here Jason. The only thing lame is deez....deez nuts in yo mouth beeotch!!!!

JasonLV
05-07-2003, 08:53 PM
I think people are way over excited for the Matrix.......people I know that have seen it already says it isn't all that. They also said it looks really fake in most scenes. I know more people wanting to see The Hulk and Freddy vs Jason more than the Matrix.

Matrix is so overrated. I know the Matrix will pull in it's money....but it won't be what the studio wants. Freddy vs Jason trailer is attached to the Matrix so look for all the people that have been crying for it will go and pay to see the Matrix

Citizen Kane
05-07-2003, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by Hitman
^ I want to say something intelligent but not with this sorry post.

Looky here Jason. The only thing lame is deez....deez nuts in yo mouth beeotch!!!!

And why exactly have you decided to criticize him because he expressed his opinion? :rolleyes:

jbailey84
05-07-2003, 09:14 PM
i am one of those people who is waiting for Freddy Vs Jason more than the Matrix 2.

Hitman
05-07-2003, 11:12 PM
Originally posted by Citizen Kane
And why exactly have you decided to criticize him because he expressed his opinion? :rolleyes:

Actually, I did it to annoy someone with nothing else better to do then ask a stupid question on an already opinionated message board. :rolleyes:

Citizen Kane
05-07-2003, 11:18 PM
Well, he's allowed to ask a stupid question, and you were in fact criticizing him, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. And who cares if this message board is opinionated? Opinions make the world interesting.

Hitman
05-07-2003, 11:26 PM
LMAO, I think you misinterpreted my post. I was referring to YOU. It's okay though. Sarcasm loves it when you play hard to get.

Citizen Kane
05-08-2003, 12:25 AM
Hehe. :rolleyes:

ILOVEKATIE
05-08-2003, 04:56 AM
weird

daveanator
05-09-2003, 11:23 AM
the movie that will be the blockbuster will be Terminator 3!!!

TheBatman_9
05-10-2003, 12:00 AM
i'm sorry matrix worshipers but after reading the reviews and hearing the rumors i'm really beginning to doubt this thing. now i loved THE MATRIX as much as the next person but i just don't see it outgrossing X-MEN or T3. i just think those films will be huge huge huge! X2 has $250 million potential as does T3. now some will argue that HULK could be that big but i'm thinking that HULK and THE MARTIX RELOADED will disappoint and come short of $250 million. time will tell...

Hitman
05-10-2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Hitman
Keyword being could. You have to remember that Reloaded has many great things going for it. 1) It has a strong and dedicated fanbase. 2) Many people have been awaiting 4 years for Reloaded. 3) The trailer and tv spots are amazing/jaw- dropping so you KNOW people will flock to the theaters on opening weekend and so on. 5) It's a sequel. People LOVE sequels. 6) The action and special effects are so superb that they can/will even draw "strangers" to the film. I can garuntee you that Reloaded will break the box office record for the highest R- rated opening in theater history. It just has more positives than negatives. Despite it's R rating, this movie will make some HUGE bank. The 1st Matrix brought in over $170 million in North America. Best believe that most of the people who contributed to that sum (including me) will go see the sequel.

Nuff said. On May 15th, get ready to Reload. :cool:

daveanator
05-10-2003, 01:51 PM
im just going to see reloaded for the new terminator3 trialer :)

tedward
05-18-2003, 09:13 AM
Just read empire magazines online features on this years blockbusters they have estimated the combined worldwide box office takings for the films mentioned.
In reverse order.....

5) Charlies Angels 2, 175 Million
4) The Hulk, 350 Million
3) T3 - Terminator 3, 360 Million (????!!!)
2) X2, 450 Million

and number 1 the Matrix Reloaded with a staggering 1.3 Billion.

These were just their estimates (they are obviously nothing more than matrix fanboys pah:))

N.B They are guessing lotr 3 will rake in about 800 mill.

360 million for t3 that seems like a very conservative estimate.

I still predict t3 will be number 1 and cant see the matrix getting past a billion (or too close to it either)

spiderman_2k
05-18-2003, 09:18 AM
T3 will rule this summer.

adt100
05-18-2003, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by tedward

5) Charlies Angels 2, 175 Million
4) The Hulk, 350 Million
3) T3 - Terminator 3, 360 Million (????!!!)
2) X2, 450 Million

and number 1 the Matrix Reloaded with a staggering 1.3 Billion.

These were just their estimates (they are obviously nothing more than matrix fanboys pah:))

N.B They are guessing lotr 3 will rake in about 800 mill.
If they're being serious then I think Empire really need to start looking at hiring some new writers than actually know what they're talking about.:rolleyes:

It doesn't matter what film you're a particular 'fan' of, those figures are way out in so many areas.

1. Hulk and T3 getting such a low gross,
2. Matrix Reloaded getting 1.3B - maybe Reloaded and Revolutions combined yes, but I can't imagine anyone seriously expecting much more than half that firgure for the individual films,
3. LOTR: ROTK being estimated at only 800M, despite FOTR getting $860 m and TTT on $905 m so far. An extra half an hour or so in length isn't going to hurt ROTK, and I expect it to top both FOTR and TTT because it is fully expected to be the best of the 3, and being the final part it's inevitable to get more repeat viewings (and even 'newbies' to LOTR) compared to the middle part.

adt100
05-18-2003, 12:16 PM
One other quick point, I think that the greater box office achieved by Reloaded/Revolutions over The Matrix will be weighted more toward the US box office. That is the films seem to be comparitively more hyped and popular there than elsewhere in the world.

I don't really think that Reloaded/Revolutions will be breaking opening weekend records so easily elsewhere in the world. But then I could be wrong.

MovieFreak89
05-18-2003, 12:20 PM
After seeing Reloaded I'm going to hope people do not get discouraged from seeing sequels, Matrix 2 is a B+ nothing near A list movies, it was boring, then fun, boring again, OK, tight ending. I couldn't stop thinking, Haven't I seen this before? I saw it at 11:00 P.M. at AMC 24, lines were astronomical,(I was so excited I nabbed the first part in line) a lot of people came out dissapointed. I thought, maybe if I see it again, I would like it more, WRONG. I saw it at a local Drive In and fell asleep. Conviently I woke up to see then KICK ASS ending. I'll be the 20th in line for Revolutions. Let's look forward to T3 in the mean time and try to get everyone to see it so it will at least match up to Matrix numbers, and it would please me to see it dominate also. I don't want T3 to fail like the not nearly recognized new cult classic WILLARD.

adt100
05-18-2003, 01:33 PM
I think the problem with Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions is that it's been ridiculously over-hyped, (particularly compared to The Matrix). It looked visually stunning from the trailer, but films are hardly ever able to live up to such pre-opening frenzy.

As a result, if you go in with such lofty expectation then you're more than likely to be a little bit disappointed.

jedimaster03
05-18-2003, 03:12 PM
Matrix Reloaded was so dissapointing that i think it took almost everyone by surprise and i didnt even have high expectations!! After seeing that dissapointment, i know for a fact that Hulk and Terminator 3 will be much better and more exciting then Reloaded was. I know that i will be there opeining day for both Terminator 3 and HULK. Until then, I'm going to go watch THE FIRST MATRIX and see X-2 again.

necronon99
05-18-2003, 04:58 PM
how come jeepers creepers 2 isnt on that poll

tedward
06-01-2003, 05:36 AM
anyone care to make any revisions at the midway point?

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 06:47 AM
All i want i T3 OUT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It has been my most anticipated film of this year.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 09:10 AM
A while ago all people would say is that Reloaded was going to be all fighting and wouldn't have the story elements that the original did.

All of a sudden Reloaded isn't all fighting or "Action," but when those part arise they blow you away.

Don't hate just because the writers put substance in their vision, take it in and appritiate the grand sceme of things. When Zion is destroyed, the viewer will at least know what Zion was all about rather than just hearsay from Morpheus.

The Brothers blew you away with the first one, they did it again with this one two but unfortunately no one can be fooled twice persay.

Here are a few reasons one might come away unsatisfied with the second installment of the Matrix:

You went in with your own ideas of what was going to happen and were let down when they didn't because they would ruin the movie from a writing point of view, a la Neo killing people with a glance.

The movie didn't really end and left you in need of a tangible conclusion. That's how cliffhangers work.

I don't know, you spent so much time bashing it on the message boards that you couldn't like it.

As of two weeks, Reloaded has made about 210 mill domestically, Where as my personal favourite movie of the summer X-men has made has made 190 mill after four weeks. Both of them should reach 250.

From a technical point of view why isn't the Disney summer movie on this list, evey second one's huge.

I think the Hulk is going to be the suprise of the summer for the same reason Spiderman was, mass awareness (grandparents to four year olds, kids bringing their parents), the visual impact of these types of comicbook films (you have to see it to believe it), and of course our curiosity (is it really that bad/good). I hear they're still putting the finishing touches on that puppy. I'll see it just to see the crowds reaction. Ag Lee wouldn't put his name on crap I'm sure of it.
I think T3 and Pirates of the Jamaca will round out the 250 mill generators. you can only have so many.


could someone please tell me you to use images, do you have to use URLs.

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 09:12 AM
Hulk isnt as popular as Spider-Man character wise,
T3 will own :D
And since when was Spidey a suprise hit???

Tee244
06-01-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by spiderman_2k
Hulk isnt as popular as Spider-Man character wise,
T3 will own :D
And since when was Spidey a suprise hit???

I don't know about The Hulk...T3 will kick ass, probably not as much as Reloaded but it will be good to see Arnold ruling again. Spider-Man was definitely NOT a surprise hit.. First off, tons of people knew about it and 'surprise hit' doesn't make 400 million.. more like 100-200 M..

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 09:17 AM
T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 :D I have to see that Movie!!!!

Tee244
06-01-2003, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by spiderman_2k
T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 T3 :D I have to see that Movie!!!!

Didn't you rank T2 as your # 1?

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 09:28 AM
Indeed i did :D

Tee244
06-01-2003, 09:35 AM
I think I put it as #3... I don't even remember.... I could make top 5 right now and it'd probably be way different..

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 09:36 AM
T2 has been atop my top 5 for a long time now.

Tee244
06-01-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by spiderman_2k
T2 has been atop my top 5 for a long time now.

Yeah, that and the Matrix are always in the top 5.. everything else switches around...

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 09:42 AM
Usually Matrix is in there too.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 09:44 AM
Did I say suprise? I ment hit.

I also ment Hulk will be a suprise because everyone thinks it will bomb.
So I guess Hulk won't be a suprise because it will make 300 mll.

Can you honestly say that in North America, Hulk isn't even close to being as known as Spidey. I don't know I think he's very recongnizable.

T2 ruled, T3 might.

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 09:46 AM
Recognizable yes, favoured no, people like Spideriman for what it is, thats why it made so much money, Hulk IMO wont come close to touching Spideys takings.

Tee244
06-01-2003, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Marvin
Did I say suprise? I ment hit.

I also ment Hulk will be a suprise because everyone thinks it will bomb.
So I guess Hulk won't be a suprise because it will make 300 mll.

Can you honestly say that in North America, Hulk isn't even close to being as known as Spidey. I don't know I think he's very recongnizable.

T2 ruled, T3 might.

I don't know what you said.. I was going off of spidey's post at the top saying that Spider-Man wasn't a 'Surprise hit'.. I had no idea who even posted it.

A movie could be a surprise hit and make 300 mill.. its just that there are only a few movies that have ever made that much and people pretty much knew about them well before so they werent a surprise hit...

The Hulk making 300 mill though? Don't get your hopes up. It's June 1st and opens June 20th and from what I've seen isn't getting nearly enough exposure to make an impact.. Terminator 3 will open shortly after and crush it anyway.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 09:52 AM
I'm not saying it will come close, I'm saying it will use the same formula.

And who knows It might be a "suprise"

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 09:55 AM
I doubt it.
It will do well, better than DD but not as good as Spidey IMO

Tee244
06-01-2003, 10:03 AM
1.) Titanic - 600 M
2.) A New Hope* - 460 M
3.) E.T.* - 434 M
4.) The Phantom Menace - 431 M
5.) Spider-Man - 403 M
6.) Jurassic Park - 356 M
7.) LOTR: The Two Towers - 338 M
8.) Forrest Gump - 329 M
9.) The Lion King - 328 M
10.) Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone - 317 M
11.) LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring - 313 M
12.) Attack of the Clones - 310 M
13.) Return of the Jedi* - 309 M
14.) Independence Day - 306 M
15.) The Sixth Sense - 293 M


* Includes re-release #'s
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I don't think The Hulk will be busting its way all the way up there...Reloaded might not even get up in the Top 10....

Marvin
06-01-2003, 10:03 AM
IMO the one film that has a shot a Spidey is RTOK

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Marvin
IMO the one film that has a shot a Spidey is RTOK

Return The Of King???? :p

Tee244
06-01-2003, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Marvin
IMO the one film that has a shot a Spidey is ROTK

Well.. 'Two Towers' made a little more than 'Fellowship' so maybe..

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 10:09 AM
Yeah its a possibility,
Its more anticipated then FOTR and TTT, so it might come close :D

Tee244
06-01-2003, 10:15 AM
Why did Reloaded drop so quickly?

Because of 'Word of Mouth' ? Those people are fools.. half of them aren't even interested in getting it so they go off ranting.. well whatever.. it's brilliant.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 10:28 AM
Reloaded is doing a damn fine job for an R movie.
What Revolutions is AA

Blade 2 is rated R for no fu***ng reason except brutal violence and a drug themes.

The original Matrix has no reason to be Restricted. For gods sake Power Rangers is just as bad.

I don't think Revolutions will even have a sex scene.

RTOK has an ending. Everyone has been waiting for it for over two years.

Tee244
06-01-2003, 10:33 AM
I think Blade 2 deserved to be rated R.. There is some brutal **** in that movie...from beginning to end.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 10:55 AM
nah brutal implies left hooks that take peoples jaws off, kicks that leave deep impresssions.

Even though Wesley Snipes kicking ass is pretty brutal.

All in one continuous combonation, dislocate you sholder, snap your elbow, twist your pink, break you nail, then walk away while you fall slowly.

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 10:58 AM
And the whole, Autopsy of the reaper thing, i think that makes it R rated.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 11:14 AM
They show that stuff on "TLC" and "The Discovery Channel"

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 11:15 AM
With fully working organs that pulsate when blood is dropped on it???

Marvin
06-01-2003, 11:48 AM
Are you saying it's the pulsating that pushes it over the AA edge.

Only adults can see that.

It might be, but thats annoying

spiderman_2k
06-01-2003, 11:50 AM
Well u dont see much like that in a PG-13 the idea of a dead body pulsating and still being alive might scare kids.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 12:45 PM
I guess

tedward
06-01-2003, 01:55 PM
Matrix reloaded is a 15 in the UK, Americans just have to be protected more.

Does anyone think x-men could overtake the matrix? I think probably not both are pretty much finished now. I still think T3 will rise above them all.

Tee244
06-01-2003, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by tedward
Matrix reloaded is a 15 in the UK, Americans just have to be protected more.

Does anyone think x-men could overtake the matrix? I think probably not both are pretty much finished now. I still think T3 will rise above them all.

No, X2 cannnot take over The Matrix.. It's already been surpassed and its been out about two weeks longer.

EDouglas
06-01-2003, 10:59 PM
Well, let's hope it's not Matrix Reloaded at this point, since it's only made $231 million and will likely not even do $300 million this summer. X2 is just about to hit $200 million but it won't be doing much more over the summer (maybe $20-30 million) Finding Nemo on the other hand looks likely to pass it in a number of weeks if it's anything like other Disney summer movies. But since that isn't included in the poll, that leaves us with Terminator 2 and Hulk.

Marvin
06-01-2003, 11:14 PM
you mean T3

gmk0taku
06-02-2003, 02:17 AM
What I think a lot of people don't understand is that the Hulk's true demographic initially is going to be the Baby Boomer generation. These people grew up watching the Incredible Hulk television series and will naturally flock to the new film for nostalgia purposes. Take my Mother & Father for example (they both watched the series growing up). We went to see X2 (because they really like X-Men) and after the Hulk trailer they both said they'd much rather see that. Now they won't stop bothering me about seeing it.

The Baby Boomers will take their children to see it, which will create new Hulk fans. They'll then go back and see it multiple times, which will make up the return business.

Let's also not forget the reason why Spider-man was such a hit, the love story/drama. From what I understand the Hulk is just one giant love story/drama, which will bring the key female demographic back for more just like Spider-man did.

Overall the Hulk has HUGE box office potential. It's only competition will be T3 which is rated R, meaning that those that can't get in will turn to buying Hulk tickets instead (whether they stay and watch the Hulk or sneak into T3 is open for debate however).

kimythegirl
06-02-2003, 03:34 AM
Terminator 3 Is going to kick major butt! I think it will do better then The Matrix and everything else this summer. Everyone I know is looking forward to this film, even my parents which are old! lol

I don't hear many good things about the Hulk. Even my little brother which is 14 said it looked lame. He is more excited seeing the Terminator again.

OzzMosiz
06-02-2003, 05:42 AM
This is an interesting topic. Hulk could do well because it is rated
PG-13, but by the summer holidays is likely to drop off a little.
By this time T3 will be released. It is likely to be rated 15 in the UK
and all of the school/college kids will have time on their hands to see it. It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

NeoVsYoda
06-02-2003, 06:20 AM
Watched The Terminator yesterday for the 100th or so time and Iam gonna watch T2 tonight again. The story truly is brilliant and judging for the Trailer for T3 I dont think many will be dissapointed. It hasnt recieved as much press as the Matrix Reloaded but I reckon the movie is gonna ROCK!

With All the elments of the previous 2 films and continuing the story of the rise of the machines, what a winning plot....

Also adding a female Terminator to me seemed as a very logical step and will definately be a sight to wintess. This movie is gonna do well.

Marvin
06-02-2003, 07:36 AM
Everyones assuming that "All the elements of the previous 2 films" will be in in tack. It's just hard for me to see that with all the changes to the cast and production team from the previous Terminators. Until we find out, it's all speculation and wishful thinking. I hope they don't mess it up because T2 was wonderful.

I'm currently reading the Hulk novelization. This story rules.

EDouglas
06-03-2003, 11:13 AM
I think the HULK will get the babyboomers, but also the kids. They'll see the commercials and think "COOL!" a lot more than the jaded adults who think that the Hulk looks fake. Personally, it's my most anticipated movie of the summer bar none...even more than Matrix Reloaded and T3.

As far as T3 not getting as much attention as Matrix Reloaded, just wait...it's going to be all over the map this month.

Superhero Joe
06-03-2003, 07:20 PM
Possibly Hulk, Ill make up my mind in two weeks, when we are closer to the release date and the reviews are in. The hype is just begining.

spiderman_2k
06-03-2003, 07:22 PM
Im waiting on a review, im gonna see it, i just need to know whether to have big expectations going in there.

kimythegirl
06-03-2003, 07:23 PM
When Does the hulk come out?

spiderman_2k
06-03-2003, 07:34 PM
June 20th i think in america
July 18th in the uk :(

kimythegirl
06-03-2003, 07:38 PM
Don't worrie spiderman_2k, I don't think you will be missing much, I could be wrong though.

daveanator
06-03-2003, 07:39 PM
dude hulk wil be gay its all about T3 !!!

kimythegirl
06-03-2003, 07:40 PM
Thats my thinking!

spiderman_2k
06-03-2003, 07:44 PM
Well DUH about it being all T3 :D

kimythegirl
06-03-2003, 07:50 PM
T3 Is going to rock!

Tee244
06-03-2003, 07:55 PM
I'm skeptical.

kimythegirl
06-03-2003, 08:00 PM
Are you a Hulk man Tee? :)

spiderman_2k
06-03-2003, 08:10 PM
Dude dont tell me u are :D

Tee244
06-03-2003, 09:36 PM
Ohh yeah, I'm a huge fan! :rolleyes:


There are only two movies I give a **** about right now... The Matrix and Terminator. :)

Tee244
06-03-2003, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by kimythegirl
Are you a Hulk man Tee? :)

Not of the movie, but I AM A HULK.. :D

kimythegirl
06-03-2003, 11:14 PM
Tee....you so crazy! :p :lol:

Tee244
06-03-2003, 11:21 PM
Sureeeee....

kimythegirl
06-03-2003, 11:25 PM
:rolleyes:




;)

HailtotheKing
06-03-2003, 11:42 PM
kimythegirl, is your little avatar 18 from DBZ going the Hardy Boyz finger gun pose?

kimythegirl
06-04-2003, 12:01 AM
I found it somewhere on the web, can't remember where and I liked it. I used it cause it reminded me of me and my personality. The only difference is I have red hair not blonde in real life.

HailtotheKing
06-04-2003, 12:55 AM
ok, thats what i thought it was since the avaters here have to be so small i just wanted to make sure.

kimythegirl
06-04-2003, 12:58 AM
Actually this avatar was a much bigger picture, I resized it myself to make it fit on the boards. I kinda wanted something special for me... :D

You having any luck finding one for yourself?

By the way, Welcome to the Boards!

HailtotheKing
06-04-2003, 01:05 AM
I'm trying to find some good Bruce Campbell avaters. Preferably from Army of Darkness (hence the name). Not sure if I'm going to find any thing that will retain any quality after it is shrunk down so small.

kimythegirl
06-04-2003, 01:06 AM
Ummm..... Not to sure where to find something like that but I will keep an eye out for you. If I run into anything then I will let you know!

HailtotheKing
06-04-2003, 01:17 AM
i found a site that has a s*** load of avater. it has a bunch of different stuff.

http://www.gamespy.com/avatars/index.asp

kimythegirl
06-04-2003, 01:19 AM
Cool, thanks for sharing!
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Nice Avatar by the way! :)

Marvin
07-03-2003, 10:40 PM
Remember this list?

It's the one that convinced me join.

I still haven't voted yet.

Annyone have any changes of heart?

TyRoss
07-03-2003, 10:41 PM
I'd say the real hit will mos tlikely be Finding Nemo

Marvin
07-03-2003, 10:45 PM
Has it surpassed Reloaded?

Still I think it will have the higest revenue.

Personally I miss the disney classics. They demolised every summer.

TyRoss
07-03-2003, 10:47 PM
No it's 10 mil behind but it's still grossing over 10 mil a week. Whereas Reloaded is down to about 1 mil a week.

Marvin
07-03-2003, 10:50 PM
Reloaded is resiliant isn't it.

Reloaded is RESTRICTED.

I think it deserves some serious credit.

dr_evil
07-03-2003, 11:13 PM
even if reloaded was pg-13 it wouldnt make that much of a difference

and nemo will be the biggest of summer and maybe the year if we get lucky:)

tedward
07-04-2003, 04:18 AM
Annyone have any changes of heart?

no, not me I should dig up my list and start endlessly boasting when it turns out right. At least all the matrix fans have quitened down.

Finding nemo has done well - its still hasnt even started in many international markets yet either.

adt100
07-04-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Marvin
Annyone have any changes of heart?

Nope.

Of course, Reloaded is the only film that's been out internationally for a while now, Charlie's Angels only comes out in cinemas in the UK today, and Finding Nemo was never on the list to start.

Gandollum
07-05-2003, 10:57 PM
Finding Nemo will probably become the domestic box office champ of the summer, it seems Nemo will pass Reloaded this weekend. Not too sure how much it will make internationally, but then again Monsters. Inc made over 500 million worldwide, im pretty sure Nemo will make more than that.

dr_evil
07-05-2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Gandollum
Finding Nemo will probably become the domestic box office champ of the summer, it seems Nemo will pass Reloaded this weekend. Not too sure how much it will make internationally, but then again Monsters. Inc made over 500 million worldwide, im pretty sure Nemo will make more than that.


it probally wll do really well in china/japan because tehy seem to have a thing for fish;)
and it will probally do really well in australia because thats where it is set

sniktawt
07-06-2003, 02:28 AM
In terms of what it cost and what it is making , 28 Days Later is actually a Blockbuster to it's studio and producers.Most of the films on the list here barely surpassed what it cost to make them.